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13Th Lake Campsite 8 (Siamese Ponds Wilderness)

Drive-up · New York State Dept. of Environmental Conservation · NY · 43.70799, -74.12791
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FREE primitive camping in the 114,010-acre Siamese Ponds Wilderness, part of New York's Adirondack Forest Preserve, in the east-central Adirondacks between Indian Lake and North Creek -- Towns of Johnsburg and Thurman in Warren County and Towns of Indian Lake, Lake Pleasant and Wells in Hamilton County (DEC Region 5), reached from NY 8, NY 30 and the Thirteenth Lake / Old Farm Clearing roads off NY 28. DEC-designated primitive tent site ('13Th Lake Campsite 8'). New York provides these designated primitive tent sites at NO CHARGE (the DEC unit page lists the fee as 'Free'); sites are first-come and cannot be reserved. HOW YOU REACH THIS SPECIFIC SITE IS NOT PINNED DOWN by DEC: the page says nine of the thirteen Thirteenth Lake sites are reached on foot from the Thirteenth Lake trailhead via the Peaked Mountain Trail and its spur trails, and that "the remaining three tent sites can only be accessed via water from the Thirteenth Lake hand launch" -- but it never says WHICH sites are which, so plan for either a shoreline walk or a paddle from the hand launch, and check with DEC first. PERMITS: a free New York State Forest Ranger permit is required for any stay of more than three nights at one spot, or for a group of ten or more (the DEC unit page sets no stricter local threshold, so the statewide rule governs). Arrange any permit in advance through the DEC Region 5 Warrensburg Office at 518-623-1200 (Mon-Fri, 8:30 to 4:45). Camp only at the marked site (look for the yellow 'Camp Here' disc) -- elsewhere on the Forest Preserve, camping is prohibited within 150 feet of any road, trail, spring, stream, pond or other water. These are primitive sites: typically just a fire ring, no hookups and no potable water, and designated TENT sites are for tents only. Pack out all trash, follow Leave No Trace and the DEC fire rules, and store food away from black bears. The unit is open year-round, but winter access is on ski or snowshoe and several stream crossings here have no bridge -- confirm current conditions, closures and this site's access with the DEC unit page (dec.ny.gov/places/siamese-ponds-wilderness) or the Warrensburg office before you go; we have not visited.

Can I go now? — 13Th Lake Campsite 8 (Siamese Ponds Wilderness) · New York State Dept. of Environmental Conservation · NY
Open today Year-round per the agency record.
New York State Dept. of Environmental Conservation record: “Year-round” Read against the calendar on 2026-09-17; with JavaScript your browser re-checks it against today.
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USGS topographic map of 13Th Lake Campsite 8 (Siamese Ponds Wilderness)
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Everything you need — measured from 13Th Lake Campsite 8 (Siamese Ponds Wilderness) · New York State Dept. of Environmental Conservation · NY

15 MI30 MI60 MIYOUR CAMPN ↑Brant Lake Watering Tub · Water · 18 miWDump · 18 miDNice n' Easy · Fuel · 8 miFTops · Grocery · 7 miGRite Aid Pharmacy · Pharmacy · 7 miRxCurtis Lumber Co., Inc. · Hardware · 21 miHThe Shop · Mechanic · 8 miMNorth Creek Laundromat · Laundry · 7 miLShower · 14 miShAir-up · 39 miANorth Creek Health Center · Urgent care · 7 mi+Cloud-Splitter Outfitters · Outfitter · 18 miONorth River PO 12856 · Mail · 4 mi@Indian Lake - Welcome Center · EV fast charger · 8 miEV
Straight-line miles · bearings approx · roads run longer
Nearest of each
  • @Mail4 mi
  • +Urgent care7 mi
  • GGrocery7 mi
  • RxPharmacy7 mi
  • LLaundry7 mi
  • FFuel8 mi
  • MMechanic8 mi
  • EVEV fast charger8 mi
  • ShShower14 mi
  • DDump18 mi
  • WWater18 mi
  • OOutfitter18 mi
  • HHardware21 mi
  • AAir-up39 mi
≤30 mi30–4545+water

The read: water's a short hop out, fuel & food sit about 7 mi out.

Not within 60 mi: Propane. Plan those before you head up.

One dot per need — the nearest of each kind, straight-line from camp. Places from OpenStreetMap (© OpenStreetMap contributors); the EV fast charger from the US DOE station locator. Open in Google Maps ↗

The site — 13Th Lake Campsite 8 (Siamese Ponds Wilderness)

Access
Drive-up
Land
New York State Dept. of Environmental Conservation
Elevation
1,679 ft
State
NY
Coordinates
43.70799, -74.12791
Cost
Free

Nearby & resupply — around 13Th Lake Campsite 8 (Siamese Ponds Wilderness) · New York State Dept. of Environmental Conservation · NY (OpenStreetMap)

  • Water featurePeaked Mountain Pond Brook (stream) · nearby
  • Nearest townChristian Hill · ~3.2 mi
  • Drinking waternone within 10 mi
  • FuelStewart's Shop · ~8.0 mi
  • Propane / LPGnone within 31 mi
  • Dump station~17.5 mi
  • GroceriesTops · ~7.0 mi
  • PharmacyRite Aid Pharmacy · ~7.1 mi
  • Hospital / clinicNorth Creek Health Center · ~6.9 mi
  • HardwareCurtis Lumber Co., Inc. · ~21.0 mi

EV charging — from 13Th Lake Campsite 8 (Siamese Ponds Wilderness) · New York State Dept. of Environmental Conservation · NY — nearest public DC fast & Level 2 (US DOE station data)

Nearby restrooms — around 13Th Lake Campsite 8 (Siamese Ponds Wilderness) · New York State Dept. of Environmental Conservation · NY — pit toilets, restrooms & rest areas (government data)

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How we know this — 13Th Lake Campsite 8 (Siamese Ponds Wilderness)

Open season
Year-round
Permit
Free permit needed only for stays over 3 nights or groups of 10 or more
Source
NY Dept. of Environmental Conservation
Confidence
Researched — The record is detailed and internally consistent, and the coordinates land where the managing agency says this site is.
How it was placed
NY DEC 'Primitive Campsite' GIS layer (https://gisservices.dec.ny.gov/arcgis/rest/services/dil/dil_land_assets_prm_cmp/MapServer/0), ASSET_UID 6407, ASSET='PRIMITIVE TENT SITE', PUBLICUSE='Y', FACILITY='Siamese Ponds Wilderness'; coordinate is DEC's own point geometry (WGS84), pulled 2026-07-23 via the layer's /find endpoint (honours sr=4326; /query returns projected UTM). FREE confirmed by DEC's own place page (dec.ny.gov/places/siamese-ponds-wilderness, read 2026-07-23): Fee='Free', 'Open for recreation: Year-round', "There are 39 primitive tent sites and four lean-tos located in the Siamese Pond Wilderness", all first-come and not reservable; plus DEC State Land Camping Rules (dec.ny.gov/things-to-do/camping/state-land-rules, re-read 2026-07-23): primitive camping is allowed on the Adirondack Forest Preserve (Wilderness is a category where it is allowed), with a free permit only for stays over 3 nights or groups of 10+, arranged via the DEC Region 5 Warrensburg Office at 518-623-1200 (Mon-Fri, 8:30 to 4:45). COUNT: GIS returns 42 records vs the page's stated 39 tent sites -- no foreign unit is dragged in (all 42 carry this FACILITY and Siamese-Ponds-region names); one record covers four sites ('13Th Lake Campsite 1, 11, 12, 13') and the page's prose list is not exhaustive. EXCLUDED as PAID: the 20 Indian Lake shoreline sites, which the page says are part of the DEC Indian Lake Islands Campground and require a paid reservation in season -- they are absent from this GIS layer (no 'Indian Lake' facility) and no site here is on that shoreline. Access classified as 'unverified'; nearest DEC-published access point the Old Farm Clearing trailhead parking area off Thirteenth Lake Road, 0.56 mi straight-line. Ingest 2026-07-23.
Season
Read from the agency's own season / closure text in this record (data/conditions.py) and checked against the calendar. The words we read are printed under the verdict at the top of the page.
EV chargers
US DOE Alternative Fuels Data Center station locator, snapshot 2026-09-16. Straight-line miles to the nearest public, open, unrestricted station; restricted and planned units are shown but never counted.
Field check
On the agency's books. The land manager inventoried this site, so its existence is not in question — current conditions are. Nobody from here has camped it recently.

What we don’t know about 13Th Lake Campsite 8 (Siamese Ponds Wilderness)

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