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Biscuit Brook Primitive Campsite [DEC #228717] (Big Indian Wilderness)

Drive-up · New York State Dept. of Environmental Conservation · NY · 42.00881, -74.48237

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FREE first-come primitive camping at the Biscuit Brook Primitive Campsite, a DEC-designated tent site near Biscuit Brook at the southwestern (Frost Valley / NY-47) end of the Pine Hill - West Branch Trail in the Big Indian Wilderness (Ulster County, central Catskill Park, DEC Region 3). New York provides it at NO CHARGE: the DEC page lists the unit as 'Free' and open year-round, and says designated campsites are 'marked with a yellow "Camp Here" disc' (plus at-large primitive camping is allowed). This is a remote backcountry site reached on foot from a free DEC trailhead -- no reservation, no fee, and no facilities (no hookups, no showers, no potable water). CONFIDENCE / RULES NOTE -- please read: this is MEDIUM confidence. The DEC page confirms designated marked sites exist and at-large camping is allowed but does NOT publish a count of the tent sites, so treat this as an established, DEC-mapped designated site rather than a certified specific one; on the ground, camp only where you see a round yellow DEC 'Camp Here' disc, and keep any at-large camp at least 150 feet from the trail, road, or water. A free Forest Ranger permit is required only if you stay more than 3 nights or camp with a group of 10 or more (arrange it through the DEC Region 3 New Paltz Office at (845) 256-3076 (Forest Rangers via 911 or 1-833-NYS-RANGERS / 1-833-697-7264)). Bring or treat all water, pack out all trash, follow Leave No Trace and the DEC fire rules, and store food from bears (this is black-bear country). SEASON / ACCESS: DEC lists the unit as open year-round, but Catskill access and conditions vary by season and trail/lean-to status can change (a Rider Hollow lean-to was recently removed) -- confirm current conditions and this site's status on the DEC page (dec.ny.gov/places/big-indian-wilderness) or with the DEC Region 3 office (845-256-3076) before you go; we have not visited.

Can I go now? — Biscuit Brook Primitive Campsite [DEC #228717] (Big Indian Wilderness) · New York State Dept. of Environmental Conservation · NY

Open today Year-round per the agency record.

New York State Dept. of Environmental Conservation record: “Year-round” Read against the calendar on 2026-09-22; with JavaScript your browser re-checks it against today.

USGS topo — contours & terrain

USGS topographic map of Biscuit Brook Primitive Campsite [DEC #228717] (Big Indian Wilderness)

Aerial — USGS / NAIP

Aerial image of Biscuit Brook Primitive Campsite [DEC #228717] (Big Indian Wilderness)

Weather outlook — at Biscuit Brook Primitive Campsite [DEC #228717] (Big Indian Wilderness)

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Live NWS area forecast (~2.5 km grid, not elevation-corrected). Camp sits at 2,406 ft.

Fire & smoke — around Biscuit Brook Primitive Campsite [DEC #228717] (Big Indian Wilderness)NIFC · AirNow

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Active wildfires from NIFC (within ~50 mi); air quality from AirNow. Always confirm current fire restrictions with the managing office before you go.

Everything you need — measured from Biscuit Brook Primitive Campsite [DEC #228717] (Big Indian Wilderness) · New York State Dept. of Environmental Conservation · NY

▲ your camp. Rings are 15, 30 and 60 straight-line miles; bearings are approximate and roads run longer.

Nearest of each

DDump6 mi
WWater7 mi
@Mail7 mi
LLaundry8 mi
OOutfitter9 mi
RxPharmacy10 mi
FFuel10 mi
GGrocery10 mi
AAir-up10 mi
+Urgent care10 mi
MMechanic10 mi
HHardware11 mi
EVEV fast charger12 mi
ShShower13 mi
PPropane59 mi

≤30 mi30–4545+water

The read: water's a short hop out, fuel & food sit about 10 mi out.

One dot per need — the nearest of each kind, straight-line from camp. Places from OpenStreetMap (© OpenStreetMap contributors); the EV fast charger from the US DOE station locator. Open in Google Maps ↗

The site — Biscuit Brook Primitive Campsite [DEC #228717] (Big Indian Wilderness)

Access

Drive-up

Land

New York State Dept. of Environmental Conservation

Elevation

2,406 ft

Ground slope

21.4% · steep

State

Coordinates

42.00881, -74.48237

Cost

Free

Nearby & resupply — around Biscuit Brook Primitive Campsite [DEC #228717] (Big Indian Wilderness) · New York State Dept. of Environmental Conservation · NY (OpenStreetMap)

Water featureBiscuit Brook · ~0.1 mi · USGS: perennial stream
Nearest townBranch · ~1.2 mi
Rail & highwaynone mapped within 10 mi
Drinking waterDrinking water · ~6.7 mi
FuelCitgo · ~10.3 mi
Propane / LPGnone within 31 mi
Dump station~6.5 mi
GroceriesPhoenicia Supermarket · ~10.1 mi
PharmacyNekos Boiceville Pharmacy · ~11.0 mi
Hospital / clinicMargaretville Hospital · ~12.5 mi
HardwareVillage Hardware · ~19.5 mi

EV charging — from Biscuit Brook Primitive Campsite [DEC #228717] (Big Indian Wilderness) · New York State Dept. of Environmental Conservation · NY — nearest public DC fast & Level 2 (US DOE station data)

Nearest public DC fast charger12.4 mi straight-line NW — NYC FLEET DEP_ARKVLE_1_L3, Arkville, NY · ChargePoint Network · CHAdeMO, CCS · 1 fast port listed · listed open, last confirmed by AFDC 2026-09-16 · hours: 24 hours daily · directions
Public DC fast stations within reach11 within 25 mi · 80 within 50 · 777 within 100 · 1441 within 150
Nearest listing NACS (Tesla)22.6 mi — Roscoe, NY - Tesla Supercharger, Roscoe
Nearest public Level 2 (J1772)3.0 mi — Full Moon Resort - Tesla Destination, Big Indian, NY · Tesla Destination · J1772, NACS (Tesla) · 6 Level 2 ports listed · listed open, last confirmed by AFDC 2026-08-27 · hours: 24 hours daily. Open to all vehicles.
Pricing at the fast chargernot listed
Power (kW)not listed by AFDC — “DC fast” spans roughly 24 to 350 kW, so ask the network.
Read this honestlyStraight-line miles, like every distance on this site. Roads run longer than this, and you have to get back. We know where a charger is listed. We don’t know if it works today, how fast it is, or the road miles. Check the network before you commit.
Snapshot 2026-09-16 · AFDC record 433990 · US DOE Alternative Fuels Data Center

Nearby restrooms — around Biscuit Brook Primitive Campsite [DEC #228717] (Big Indian Wilderness) · New York State Dept. of Environmental Conservation · NY — pit toilets, restrooms & rest areas (government data)

Highway rest areaRoscoe · ~20.4 mi W
Highway rest areaUlster Travel Plaza · ~24.7 mi E
Highway rest areaParking/Rest Area · ~25.8 mi E
Highway rest areaParking/Rest Area · ~27.7 mi E

Coming out here — Biscuit Brook Primitive Campsite [DEC #228717] (Big Indian Wilderness) · New York State Dept. of Environmental Conservation · NY

Surface water mapped nearby: USGS maps Biscuit Brook as a perennial stream, ~0.1 mi from the pin (National Hydrography Dataset, data refreshed October 2022). Mapped as perennial is not the same as flowing today. Nobody has checked it for you. Filter or boil anything you drink.
Ground slope around the pin: about 21.4% — steep. Measured on USGS's 3DEP elevation model (1 m data here), sampled every 10 metres around the point. That is the hillside, not the ground under your wheels — a graded pullout or a bench a few metres across is too small to show up at that spacing, and nobody has checked this one for you.
No rail line and no interstate or US route is mapped within 10 mi of the pin. Checked against the FRA/BTS North American Rail Network (data updated Jul 21, 2026) and the Census's TIGER/Line primary roads (TIGER/Line 2025, released Oct 2025). Both are national files and both are maps of what is built, not counts of what moves on it.
Power: Dave carries his own — batteries or solar. A generator will run your rig and it is also the thing everybody camped near you can hear.
Getting online: Dave recommends Starlink. He has had it since SpaceX introduced it, used it for four years living on the road, and it delivers as promised — several hundred nights out, and he can count on one hand the places he could not connect. The cable on his unit runs 150 feet, which is usually all it takes to find enough sky. Starlink → Referral link — Starlink pays Dave $100 in cash if you sign up through it, and that money funds this site and the next trip. It costs you nothing and does not change the recommendation.

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Who holds the land at Biscuit Brook Primitive Campsite [DEC #228717] (Big Indian Wilderness)

USGS’s Protected Areas Database (PAD-US 4.1, queried 2026-09-23) lists the ground at this pin as Big Indian Wilderness, manager on record: NYS Department of Environmental Conservation (state). That names who holds the land — it is not a statement that camping is permitted here.

How we know this — Biscuit Brook Primitive Campsite [DEC #228717] (Big Indian Wilderness)

Open season

Year-round

Source

NY Dept. of Environmental Conservation

Confidence

Likely — The record is good enough to put a pin on, but thin in places. Treat the details as a starting point, not gospel.

How it was placed

NY DEC 'Primitive Campsite' GIS layer (https://gisservices.dec.ny.gov/arcgis/rest/services/dil/dil_land_assets_prm_cmp/MapServer/0), ASSET_UID 228717, NAME verbatim 'Biscuit Brook Primitive Campsite', ASSET='PRIMITIVE TENT SITE', PUBLICUSE='Y', ACCESSIBLE='N', FACILITY='Big Indian Wilderness', DEC Region 3, WMU 3A. DESCRIP=''; NOTES=''. Coordinate is DEC's own point geometry (WGS84), pulled 2026-07-26 via the layer's /query endpoint (outSR=4326, one paced curl request -- the DEC GIS host rate-blocks bursts). FREE confirmed on dec.ny.gov/places/big-indian-wilderness (Big Indian Wilderness, read 2026-07-26): 'Fee: Free', open year-round, Towns of Denning, Shandaken and Hardenburgh, Ulster County, DEC Region 3 New Paltz Office (845) 256-3076; the page states 'There are five lean-tos located trailside throughout the area... Other designated campsites are marked with a yellow "Camp Here" disc. In addition, primitive camping is allowed. Campsites must be at least 150 feet away from the nearest road, trail, or body of water. Camping for more than three nights or in groups of ten or more requires a permit from a Forest Ranger.' CONFIDENCE (MED): the page COUNTS the lean-tos (five) but does NOT enumerate a count of the designated tent/primitive campsites, so this is the COUNT-only / at-large basis (Blue Mountain / Slide Mountain / Sargent Ponds / Willowemoc lesson) -- the point is an established DEC-designated tent site but cannot be certified 1:1 against a page slot, so it ships at the honest MEDIUM floor, not HIGH. IDENTITY/LOCATION CORROBORATION: no OSM camp_site node exists for either site (an Overpass sweep of both site areas returned zero tourism=camp_site/wilderness_hut nodes); corroboration is the named OSM way 290539470 'Pine Hill - West Branch Trail' (the long N-S trail through the wilderness), which runs ~277 ft from this point (`out geom`, overpass.kumi.systems, 2026-07-26); the DEC NAME matches the geography (Biscuit Brook drainage / Pine Hill-West Branch Trail namesake). ELEVATION ~2406 ft (USGS EPQS, 2026-07-26) -- below the 3,500-ft Catskill camping ban; no elevation restriction applies. PAID-NEIGHBOUR (guardrail 2): DEC's Woodland Valley and Kenneth L. Wilson developed fee campgrounds are separate facilities several miles away; access is via free DEC trailheads, so no access/day-use/permit fee attaches to this backcountry site. NOTE: a page banner (read 2026-07-25/26) reports the Rider Hollow lean-to removed for structural damage -- a lean-to, not this tent site, but confirm current conditions. LEGALITY (guardrail 1): DEC-designated, publicly-usable, first-come, no-reservation, per DEC State Land Camping Rules (dec.ny.gov/things-to-do/camping/state-land-rules). Ingest 2026-07-26.

Season

Read from the agency's own season / closure text in this record (data/conditions.py) and checked against the calendar. The words we read are printed under the verdict at the top of the page.

EV chargers

US DOE Alternative Fuels Data Center station locator, snapshot 2026-09-16. Straight-line miles to the nearest public, open, unrestricted station; restricted and planned units are shown but never counted.

Field check

On the agency's books. The land manager inventoried this site, so its existence is not in question — current conditions are. Nobody from here has camped it recently.

What we don’t know about Biscuit Brook Primitive Campsite [DEC #228717] (Big Indian Wilderness)

A land record can put you within a few meters of a spot. It cannot tell you any of this — so check it yourself, and treat anything below as the open question it is.

Road surface & last-mile access
How many rigs actually fit
Cell coverage by carrier
Current fire restrictions
Whether any water here is drinkable
Shade & wind exposure
Noise and who else shows up
Whether a listed EV charger works today, or the road miles to it

Before you go — Biscuit Brook Primitive Campsite [DEC #228717] (Big Indian Wilderness)

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