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Gulf Brook Road Campsite 4 (Vanderwhacker Mountain Wild Forest)

Drive-up · New York State Dept. of Environmental Conservation · NY · 43.98366, -73.91141

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FREE primitive camping. DEC-designated primitive tent site ('Gulf Brook Road Campsite 4') in the Vanderwhacker Mountain Wild Forest, part of New York's Adirondack Forest Preserve, in the Newcomb-Minerva-Indian Lake area (Essex/Hamilton County). New York's Forest Preserve allows backcountry camping at these designated sites at NO CHARGE (the DEC unit page lists the fee as 'Free'), first-come/first-served -- they cannot be reserved. A FREE New York State Forest Ranger permit is required ONLY if you stay more than 3 nights in one spot or camp in a group of 10 or more; otherwise no permit and no fee. Camp only at the marked site (look for the yellow 'Camp Here' disc). This is a primitive site: no hookups, no potable water, pack out all trash, follow Leave No Trace and the DEC fire rules. This site is named for its access road, so it is likely a roadside / drive-up site, but confirm on the DEC unit page. Rules and site status change -- confirm with the DEC unit page (dec.ny.gov/places/vanderwhacker-mountain-wild-forest) or a regional DEC office before you go; we have not visited.

USGS topo — contours & terrain

USGS topographic map of Gulf Brook Road Campsite 4 (Vanderwhacker Mountain Wild Forest)

Aerial — USGS / NAIP

Aerial image of Gulf Brook Road Campsite 4 (Vanderwhacker Mountain Wild Forest)

Weather outlook — at Gulf Brook Road Campsite 4 (Vanderwhacker Mountain Wild Forest)

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Live NWS area forecast (~2.5 km grid, not elevation-corrected). Camp sits at 2,016 ft.

Fire & smoke — around Gulf Brook Road Campsite 4 (Vanderwhacker Mountain Wild Forest)NIFC · AirNow

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Active wildfires from NIFC (within ~50 mi); air quality from AirNow. Always confirm current fire restrictions with the managing office before you go.

Everything you need — measured from Gulf Brook Road Campsite 4 (Vanderwhacker Mountain Wild Forest) · Vanderwhacker Mountain Wild Forest · NY

▲ your camp. Rings are 15, 30 and 60 straight-line miles; bearings are approximate and roads run longer.

Nearest of each

EVEV fast charger9 mi
WWater9 mi
@Mail11 mi
OOutfitter11 mi
FFuel11 mi
GGrocery11 mi
HHardware12 mi
LLaundry13 mi
ShShower14 mi
DDump16 mi
+Urgent care20 mi
RxPharmacy20 mi
MMechanic21 mi
AAir-up50 mi

≤30 mi30–4545+water

The read: water's a short hop out, fuel & food sit about 11 mi out.

Not within 60 mi: Propane. Plan those before you head up.

One dot per need — the nearest of each kind, straight-line from camp. Places from OpenStreetMap (© OpenStreetMap contributors); the EV fast charger from the US DOE station locator. Open in Google Maps ↗

The site — Gulf Brook Road Campsite 4 (Vanderwhacker Mountain Wild Forest)

Access

Drive-up

Land

New York State Dept. of Environmental Conservation

Elevation

2,016 ft

Ground slope

4.3% · gentle

Nearest rail line

~6.4 mi · main line

Nearest highway

~8.7 mi · Interstate 87

State

Coordinates

43.98366, -73.91141

Cost

Free

Nearby & resupply — around Gulf Brook Road Campsite 4 (Vanderwhacker Mountain Wild Forest) · Vanderwhacker Mountain Wild Forest · NY (OpenStreetMap)

Water featureAndrew Brook · ~0.7 mi · USGS: perennial stream
Nearest townBoreas River · ~3.9 mi
Nearest rail line~6.4 mi · main line
Nearest highway~8.7 mi · Interstate 87
Drinking waterDrinking water · ~9.4 mi
FuelSullivan's Store · ~14.7 mi
Propane / LPGAmeriGas · ~27.3 mi
Dump station~16.2 mi
GroceriesTops · ~12.5 mi
PharmacyRite Aid Pharmacy · ~19.9 mi
Hospital / clinicLake Placid Health and Medical Fitness Center · ~19.8 mi
HardwareCurtis Lumber Co., Inc. · ~11.9 mi

EV charging — from Gulf Brook Road Campsite 4 (Vanderwhacker Mountain Wild Forest) · Vanderwhacker Mountain Wild Forest · NY — nearest public DC fast & Level 2 (US DOE station data)

Nearest public DC fast charger9.1 mi straight-line E — North Hudson, NY - Tesla Supercharger · Tesla · CCS, NACS (Tesla) · 8 fast ports listed · listed open, last confirmed by AFDC 2026-06-18 · hours: 24 hours daily. Open to all vehicles. · directions
Public DC fast stations within reach12 within 25 mi · 46 within 50 · 252 within 100 · 502 within 150
Nearest listing CHAdeMO9.1 mi — EVolve NY North Hudson, North Hudson
Nearest public Level 2 (J1772)9.4 mi — Paradox Brewery, North Hudson, NY · VIALYNK · J1772 · 10 Level 2 ports listed · listed open, last confirmed by AFDC 2026-09-16 · hours: 24 hours daily
Pricing at the fast chargernot listed
Power (kW)not listed by AFDC — “DC fast” spans roughly 24 to 350 kW, so ask the network.
Read this honestlyStraight-line miles, like every distance on this site. Roads run longer than this, and you have to get back. We know where a charger is listed. We don’t know if it works today, how fast it is, or the road miles. Check the network before you commit.
Snapshot 2026-09-16 · AFDC record 331348 · US DOE Alternative Fuels Data Center

Nearby restrooms — around Gulf Brook Road Campsite 4 (Vanderwhacker Mountain Wild Forest) · Vanderwhacker Mountain Wild Forest · NY — pit toilets, restrooms & rest areas (government data)

Highway rest areaHigh Peaks (North) · ~10.5 mi E
Highway rest areaHigh Peaks (South) · ~10.5 mi E

Coming out here — Gulf Brook Road Campsite 4 (Vanderwhacker Mountain Wild Forest) · Vanderwhacker Mountain Wild Forest · NY

Surface water mapped nearby: USGS maps Andrew Brook as a perennial stream, ~0.7 mi from the pin (National Hydrography Dataset, data refreshed October 2022). Mapped as perennial is not the same as flowing today. Nobody has checked it for you. Filter or boil anything you drink.
Ground slope around the pin: about 4.3% — gentle. Measured on USGS's 3DEP elevation model (1 m data here), sampled every 10 metres around the point. That is the hillside, not the ground under your wheels — a graded pullout or a bench a few metres across is too small to show up at that spacing, and nobody has checked this one for you.
Rail line mapped ~6.4 mi from the pin — the national rail atlas classes it as a main line. The atlas also records tourist, museum or scenic passenger service on it. That is the FRA/BTS North American Rail Network (data updated Jul 21, 2026), which records that a line is there and what class of track it is. Whether anything runs on it, how often, and at what hour, it does not say, and nobody has checked this one for you.
Interstate 87 is mapped ~8.7 mi from the pin. Straight-line, from the Census's TIGER/Line primary roads (TIGER/Line 2025, released Oct 2025) — the divided, limited-access highways, which is why a state expressway or a two-lane US route near this camp would not appear here.
Power: Dave carries his own — batteries or solar. A generator will run your rig and it is also the thing everybody camped near you can hear.
Getting online: Dave recommends Starlink. He has had it since SpaceX introduced it, used it for four years living on the road, and it delivers as promised — several hundred nights out, and he can count on one hand the places he could not connect. The cable on his unit runs 150 feet, which is usually all it takes to find enough sky. Starlink → Referral link — Starlink pays Dave $100 in cash if you sign up through it, and that money funds this site and the next trip. It costs you nothing and does not change the recommendation.

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The unit that manages Gulf Brook Road Campsite 4 (Vanderwhacker Mountain Wild Forest)

Gulf Brook Road Campsite 4 is in Vanderwhacker Mountain Wild Forest, a wild forest managed by NY DEC. Stay limits, permits, road closures and fire restrictions are set there, not at the campsite — check before you go. Its page maps every camp in it.

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How we know this — Gulf Brook Road Campsite 4 (Vanderwhacker Mountain Wild Forest)

Permit

Permit needed only for stays over 3 nights or groups of 10 or more

Source

NY Dept. of Environmental Conservation

Confidence

Researched — The record is detailed and internally consistent, and the coordinates land where the managing agency says this site is.

How it was placed

NY DEC 'Primitive Campsite' GIS layer (https://gisservices.dec.ny.gov/arcgis/rest/services/dil/dil_land_assets_prm_cmp/MapServer/0), ASSET_UID 228449, ASSET='PRIMITIVE TENT SITE', PUBLICUSE='Y', FACILITY='Vanderwhacker Mountain Wild Forest'; coordinate is DEC's own point geometry (WGS84), pulled 2026-07-22 via the layer's /find endpoint (the /query path is WAF-blocked). FREE confirmed by DEC's own place page (dec.ny.gov/places/vanderwhacker-mountain-wild-forest, read 2026-07-22): Fee='Free', '38 designated primitive tent sites ... available on a first come - first served basis and cannot be reserved,' marked with a yellow 'Camp Here' disc; and DEC State Land Camping Rules (dec.ny.gov/things-to-do/camping/state-land-rules): backcountry/primitive camping allowed on Adirondack Forest Preserve, Forest-Ranger permit only for stays >3 nights or groups of 10+. Ingest 2026-07-22. | water 2026-08-25 (fire 1780, NY batch 2): no drinking water. DEC place page https://dec.ny.gov/places/vanderwhacker-mountain-wild-forest (read 2026-08-25) states "There are no hook-ups for water or electricity at campsites" for this unit, walks every campsite cluster in it (Moose Pond Rd, North Woods Club Rd, Cheney Pond, Huntley Pond, Oliver Pond, Boreas River, Fourteenth Rd) without naming a water source at any of them, lists one accessible facility unit-wide (a hand boat launch), and routes campers who want more amenities to Eagle Point / Lake Harris / Scaroon Manor Campgrounds -- that is an INFERENCE of no drinking water, not a DEC sentence saying so. Surface water distance is the true minimum from DEC's own coordinate to USGS NHD high-resolution hydrography (https://hydro.nationalmap.gov/arcgis/rest/services/nhd/MapServer, layer 6 flowline / layer 12 waterbody, queried 2026-08-25); NHD FCODE flow regime carried through verbatim, so an intermittent draw is labelled intermittent, and a named NHD ArtificialPath (FTYPE 558, the flow line drawn down a mapped river -- how NHD carries the Hudson and the Boreas here) is reported as mapped surface water with NO flow-regime claim, because FCODE 55800 carries none. Nothing here is called potable: DEC's Vanderwhacker Mountain Wild Forest UMP, April 2005, p.80 (https://dec.ny.gov/docs/lands_forests_pdf/vmwfplanonly.pdf) says "The Department cannot regularly test waters in VMWF for potability. To be safe, recreationists should always filter water from any stream or waterbody in VMWF before drinking", and DEC's current State Land Camping Rules (https://dec.ny.gov/things-to-do/camping/state-land-rules) say "Drinking and cooking water should be boiled for 5 minutes, treated with purifying tablets or filtered through filtration device to prevent instances of giardia infection." NHD nearest features at this pin: unnamed lake/pond perennial 0.12 mi; unnamed stream/river perennial 0.18 mi; unnamed stream/river perennial 0.20 mi; unnamed stream/river perennial 0.26 mi. NOT a field check -- no one has stood at this site; NHD is a map layer, not an observation of flow on the day you arrive.

EV chargers

US DOE Alternative Fuels Data Center station locator, snapshot 2026-09-16. Straight-line miles to the nearest public, open, unrestricted station; restricted and planned units are shown but never counted.

Field check

On the agency's books. The land manager inventoried this site, so its existence is not in question — current conditions are. Nobody from here has camped it recently.

What we don’t know about Gulf Brook Road Campsite 4 (Vanderwhacker Mountain Wild Forest)

A land record can put you within a few meters of a spot. It cannot tell you any of this — so check it yourself, and treat anything below as the open question it is.

Road surface & last-mile access
How many rigs actually fit
Cell coverage by carrier
Seasonal & winter access
Current fire restrictions
Whether any water here is drinkable
Shade & wind exposure
Noise and who else shows up
Whether a listed EV charger works today, or the road miles to it

Before you go — Gulf Brook Road Campsite 4 (Vanderwhacker Mountain Wild Forest)

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