Agency-listedVirginia DWR · dispersedFree
Hidden Valley WMA
Dispersed · Virginia Dept. of Wildlife Resources · VA · 36.84198, -82.04846
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USGS topo — contours & terrain
Aerial — USGS / NAIP
Weather outlook — at Hidden Valley WMA
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Live NWS area forecast (~2.5 km grid, not elevation-corrected). Camp sits at 4,096 ft.
Fire & smoke — around Hidden Valley WMANIFC · AirNow
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Active wildfires from NIFC (within ~50 mi); air quality from AirNow. Always confirm current fire restrictions with the managing office before you go.
Everything you need — measured from Hidden Valley WMA · George Washington and Jefferson National Forest · VA
▲ your camp. Rings are 15, 30 and 60 straight-line miles; bearings are approximate and roads run longer.
Nearest of each
- GGrocery4 mi
- MMechanic4 mi
- +Urgent care4 mi
- FFuel4 mi
- RxPharmacy4 mi
- HHardware4 mi
- LLaundry4 mi
- @Mail5 mi
- EVEV fast charger10 mi
- OOutfitter15 mi
- WWater20 mi
- PPropane22 mi
- DDump29 mi
- ShShower30 mi
- AAir-up32 mi
≤30 mi30–4545+water
The read: water's a short hop out, fuel & food sit about 4 mi out.
One dot per need — the nearest of each kind, straight-line from camp. Places from OpenStreetMap (© OpenStreetMap contributors); the EV fast charger from the US DOE station locator. Open in Google Maps ↗
The site — Hidden Valley WMA
Access
Dispersed
Land
Virginia Dept. of Wildlife Resources · dispersed
Elevation
4,096 ft
Ground slope
7.3% · gentle
Nearest rail line
~8.8 mi · main line
State
VA
Coordinates
36.84198, -82.04846
Cost
Free
Nearby & resupply — around Hidden Valley WMA · George Washington and Jefferson National Forest · VA (OpenStreetMap)
- Water featureBrumley Creek · ~0.9 mi · USGS: perennial stream
- Also mapped (OSM)Hidden Valley Lake (water) · mapped within 1.6 mi
- Nearest townBrumley Gap · ~3.0 mi
- Nearest rail line~8.8 mi · main line
- Nearest highwayno interstate or US route within 10 mi
- Drinking waternone within 10 mi
- FuelWalmart · ~4.1 mi
- Propane / LPGMarsh Propane · ~8.4 mi
- Dump station~28.9 mi · customers only · Hungry Mother State Park
- GroceriesWalmart Supercenter · ~4.0 mi
- PharmacyWalmart Pharmacy · ~4.1 mi
- Hospital / clinicBallad Health- Urgent Care · ~4.0 mi
- HardwareAce Hardware · ~4.2 mi
EV charging — from Hidden Valley WMA · George Washington and Jefferson National Forest · VA — nearest public DC fast & Level 2 (US DOE station data)
- Nearest public DC fast charger10.0 mi straight-line S — Sustain Abingdon (at a street parking) · Non-Networked · CHAdeMO, CCS · 1 fast port listed · listed open, last confirmed by AFDC 2026-01-13 · hours: 24 hours daily · directions
- Public DC fast stations within reach11 within 25 mi · 32 within 50 · 121 within 100 · 398 within 150
- Nearest listing NACS (Tesla)11.1 mi — Abingdon, VA - Tesla Supercharger, Abingdon
- Nearest public Level 2 (J1772)4.5 mi — Lebanon Rec Center · OpConnect · J1772 · 2 Level 2 ports listed · listed open, last confirmed by AFDC 2026-09-16 · hours: 24 hours daily
- Pricing at the fast chargernot listed
- Power (kW)not listed by AFDC — “DC fast” spans roughly 24 to 350 kW, so ask the network.
- Read this honestlyStraight-line miles, like every distance on this site. Roads run longer than this, and you have to get back. We know where a charger is listed. We don’t know if it works today, how fast it is, or the road miles. Check the network before you commit.
Snapshot 2026-09-16 · AFDC record 254090 · US DOE Alternative Fuels Data Center
Nearby restrooms — around Hidden Valley WMA · George Washington and Jefferson National Forest · VA — pit toilets, restrooms & rest areas (government data)
- Highway rest areaAbingdon Truck-Only Safety Rest Area North · ~11.0 mi S
- Flush restroomJacobs Creek Campground · ~19.1 mi S · USFS
- Highway rest areaNHS Welcome Center, I-81 · ~20.3 mi SW
- Flush restroomBackbone Rock Campground · ~21.3 mi SE · USFS
Coming out here — Hidden Valley WMA · George Washington and Jefferson National Forest · VA
- Surface water mapped nearby: USGS maps Brumley Creek as a perennial stream, ~0.9 mi from the pin (National Hydrography Dataset, data refreshed October 2022). Mapped as perennial is not the same as flowing today. Nobody has checked it for you. Filter or boil anything you drink.
- Ground slope around the pin: about 7.3% — gentle. Measured on USGS's 3DEP elevation model (1 m data here), sampled every 10 metres around the point. That is the hillside, not the ground under your wheels — a graded pullout or a bench a few metres across is too small to show up at that spacing, and nobody has checked this one for you.
- Rail line mapped ~8.8 mi from the pin — the national rail atlas classes it as a main line. That is the FRA/BTS North American Rail Network (data updated Jul 21, 2026), which records that a line is there and what class of track it is. Whether anything runs on it, how often, and at what hour, it does not say, and nobody has checked this one for you.
- No interstate or US route is mapped within 10 mi of the pin in the Census's TIGER/Line primary roads (TIGER/Line 2025, released Oct 2025). That file holds the divided, limited-access highways only — a state expressway or a two-lane US route near this camp would not be in it.
- Assume no services at all. Most dispersed camping in a national forest has none: no tap, no power, no dump, often no toilet. Everything you need, you bring.
- Power: Dave carries his own — batteries or solar. A generator will run your rig and it is also the thing everybody camped near you can hear.
- Getting online: Dave recommends Starlink. He has had it since SpaceX introduced it, used it for four years living on the road, and it delivers as promised — several hundred nights out, and he can count on one hand the places he could not connect. The cable on his unit runs 150 feet, which is usually all it takes to find enough sky. Starlink → Referral link — Starlink pays Dave $100 in cash if you sign up through it, and that money funds this site and the next trip. It costs you nothing and does not change the recommendation.
Open Hidden Valley WMA elsewhere
Other camps near Hidden Valley WMA
If this one is full, gated or washed out.
- Clinch Mountain WMA~16.3 mi
- Jacobs Creek Campground~19.1 mi · fee
- A.T. Abington Gap Shelter~19.8 mi
- Backbone Rock Campground~21.3 mi · fee
The unit that manages Hidden Valley WMA
Stay limits, road closures and fire restrictions at Hidden Valley WMA are set by George Washington and Jefferson National Forest, not by the campsite — check there before you go.
How we know this — Hidden Valley WMA
Fire rules
It is unlawful to leave a campfire unattended. From February 15 to April 30 campfires are allowed only between the hours of 4:00 PM and midnight.
Stay limit
14 nights (up to 14 consecutive nights)
Permit
A new regulation (4VAC15-20-155) effective January 1, 2021 makes it unlawful to camp on Wildlife Management Areas (WMAs) without written authorization. There is no charge for camping authorizations at this time. Camping authorization can be obtained from the Go Outdoors Virginia website or any DWR license agent. Any person 17 years of age or older who does not possess a valid hunting, fishing, trapping license or boat registration is required to purchase an access permit or Restore the Wild membership, which includes an access permit, to visit and utilize a WMA.
Area rules
Camping is only allowed in previously cleared locations; no vegetation can be cut to make room for a camp. It is unlawful to camp within 300 feet of any lake or facility (building, boat ramp, etc.). Camping is prohibited in certain other areas as displayed on WMA maps, publicized on WMA kiosks or where posted as "No Camping."
Source
public land records
Confidence
Likely — The record is good enough to put a pin on, but thin in places. Treat the details as a starting point, not gospel.
How it was placed
Virginia DWR Wildlife Management Area, Washington County. DWR flags this WMA as offering Primitive Camping. Reached from US 19 between Abingdon and Lebanon via State Route 690. Nearest town named by DWR: Abingdon. Camping authorization required (free, Go Outdoors Virginia, listed under Special Licenses). Anyone 17+ also needs a VA hunting/fishing/trapping license, boat registration, Access Permit or Restore the Wild membership. Primitive camping up to 14 consecutive nights and no more than 14 nights in any 28-day period. Camping only in previously cleared locations; no cutting vegetation. Unlawful to camp on or within 300 ft of any boat ramp, fishing lake or facility, or where posted. Campfires may not be left unattended; Feb 15-Apr 30 campfires are allowed only 4:00 PM to midnight. Food must be stored so wildlife cannot reach it. Pack it in, pack it out. COORDINATES ARE A COMPUTED REPRESENTATIVE POINT inside the largest tract of DWR's own boundary polygon (6250.4 acres of 6250.4 acres total across 1 tract(s)), NOT a surveyed campsite. DWR states there are no established campsites on WMAs. Sources read 2026-08-17: https://dwr.virginia.gov/wma/ (Primitive Camping amenity flag) | https://dwr.virginia.gov/camping-on-wmas/ | https://dwr.virginia.gov/wp-content/uploads/media/wma-rules.pdf (General WMA Rules) | boundary geometry from https://services.dwr.virginia.gov/arcgis/rest/services/HUB_Layers/DWR_WMA_Boundaries/FeatureServer/0 WMA page: https://dwr.virginia.gov/wma/hidden-valley/ | auto:agency-trust 2026-08-18: state agency GIS record with a source URL and coordinates, confidence not low. Fee value is the agency's own, not field-checked. Not field-verified -- confirm access, road conditions and fire rules before you go.
EV chargers
US DOE Alternative Fuels Data Center station locator, snapshot 2026-09-16. Straight-line miles to the nearest public, open, unrestricted station; restricted and planned units are shown but never counted.
Field check
On the agency's books. The land manager inventoried this site, so its existence is not in question — current conditions are. Nobody from here has camped it recently.
What we don’t know about Hidden Valley WMA
A land record can put you within a few meters of a spot. It cannot tell you any of this — so check it yourself, and treat anything below as the open question it is.
- Whether the fire rule stated above still stands today — what we have is a dated reading of the agency's listing, not a live restriction feed
- Road surface & last-mile access
- How many rigs actually fit
- Cell coverage by carrier
- Seasonal & winter access
- Whether any water here is drinkable
- Shade & wind exposure
- Noise and who else shows up
- Whether a listed EV charger works today, or the road miles to it
Before you go — Hidden Valley WMA
Water on public land →Reading a forest MVUM →Dumping grey & black →Leave no trace →All field notes →