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Mud Lake Outlet Tent Site [DEC #22302] (Shaker Mountain Wild Forest)

Drive-up · public land · NY · 43.21448, -74.24717
We haven't personally camped here. Everything below is pulled from public land data, USGS maps and OpenStreetMap — a real place on public land, but not field-checked by us. Confirm road conditions, current access, stay limits and fire restrictions before you go.

FREE backcountry primitive camping at Mud Lake (at its outlet) in the Shaker Mountain Wild Forest of New York's southern ADIRONDACK Forest Preserve (DEC Region 5, in the Caroga / Bleecker / Arietta area of Fulton and Hamilton Counties). This is a DEC-designated primitive tent site ('Mud Lake Outlet Tent Site [DEC #22302]'), and New York provides it at NO CHARGE: the DEC Shaker Mountain Wild Forest page lists the fee as 'Free' and the unit as open year-round, first-come first-served (no reservations). It is on the Northville-Placid Trail near the outlet of Mud Lake -- a hike-in wild-forest tent site with a fire ring. COUNT DISCLOSURE: the DEC unit page enumerates six designated primitive tent sites on this wild forest -- two at Pine Lake and one each at Indian, Stewart, Holmes and Chase Lakes -- plus a Holmes Lake and a Chase Lake lean-to (a separate structure not listed here). DEC's mapping data returns seven 'Primitive Tent Site' points: those six lake sites plus a Mud Lake Outlet site on the Northville-Placid Trail that the unit page does not separately enumerate. This batch ships six (the three lake sites verified on their OpenStreetMap shorelines at high confidence, plus Stewart Lake, the first Pine Lake site, and the Mud Lake Outlet site at medium confidence) and HOLDS the second Pine Lake point, whose coordinate sits about half a mile from Pine Lake with no water body at the pin, pending a shoreline coordinate. No pins were invented. This is free, first-come Adirondack Forest Preserve backcountry camping in the Shaker Mountain Wild Forest -- do NOT confuse it with a reservable fee campground; the nearest fee campgrounds are the SEPARATE Caroga Lake Campground and Northampton Beach Campground, both miles away, and neither charges to reach these sites. SEASON / ACCESS: DEC lists Shaker Mountain Wild Forest as open YEAR-ROUND and free, but every site here is reached on foot along a hiking trail -- trails can be wet, muddy, snow-covered or blowdown-blocked, so confirm current trail and site conditions with the DEC Region 5 Northville office (518-863-4545) or the unit page before you go, especially in winter or mud season. RULES: no reservation and no fee; camp only at a designated site (look for the round yellow DEC 'Camp Here' disc) or, elsewhere in the wild forest, more than 150 feet from any road, trail or water; a free Forest Ranger permit is required only if you stay more than 3 nights or camp with a group of 10 or more (arrange it through the DEC Region 5 Office in Northville at (518) 863-4545 (Forest Rangers via 911 or DEC dispatch 1-833-NYS-RANGERS)). This site is around 1320 feet elevation, well below any Adirondack high-elevation camping restriction. These are primitive sites: expect at most a fire ring -- no hookups, no showers and no potable water, so bring water or treat what you take from the lake. Pack out all trash, follow Leave No Trace and the DEC fire rules, and store food from bears (this is black-bear country). Confirm current rules, trail status and this site's status on the DEC page (dec.ny.gov/places/shaker-mountain-wild-forest) or with the Northville office (518-863-4545) before you go; we have not visited.

USGS topo — contours & terrain
USGS topographic map of Mud Lake Outlet Tent Site [DEC #22302] (Shaker Mountain Wild Forest)
Aerial — USGS / NAIP
Aerial image of Mud Lake Outlet Tent Site [DEC #22302] (Shaker Mountain Wild Forest)
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Everything you need — measured from camp

15 MI30 MI60 MIYOUR CAMPN ↑Water · 21 miWDump · 13 miDValero · Fuel · 3 miFGrocery · 3 miGWalgreens · Pharmacy · 4 miRxAllen & Palmer True Value · Hardware · 4 miHGiff's Auto Repair · Mechanic · 3 miMNorthville Laundromat · Laundry · 4 miLShower · 21 miShAir-up · 12 miADialysis Clinic · Urgent care · 11 mi+Jim's Bait Shop · Outfitter · 8 miONorthville Post Office · Mail · 4 mi@
Straight-line miles · bearings approx · roads run longer
Nearest of each
  • FFuel3 mi
  • GGrocery3 mi
  • MMechanic3 mi
  • @Mail4 mi
  • RxPharmacy4 mi
  • HHardware4 mi
  • LLaundry4 mi
  • OOutfitter8 mi
  • +Urgent care11 mi
  • AAir-up12 mi
  • DDump13 mi
  • ShShower21 mi
  • WWater21 mi
≤30 mi30–4545+water

The read: water is a real 21-mi drive, fuel & food sit about 3 mi out.

Not within 60 mi: Propane. Plan those before you head up.

One dot per need — the nearest of each kind, straight-line from camp. Places from OpenStreetMap (© OpenStreetMap contributors). Open in Google Maps ↗

The site

Access
Drive-up
Land
public land
Elevation
1,319 ft
State
NY
Coordinates
43.21448, -74.24717
Cost
Free

Nearby & resupply (OpenStreetMap)

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Nearby restrooms — pit toilets, restrooms & rest areas (government data)

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How we know this

Source
NY Dept. of Environmental Conservation
Confidence
Likely — The record is good enough to put a pin on, but thin in places. Treat the details as a starting point, not gospel.
How it was placed
NY DEC 'Primitive Campsite' GIS layer (https://gisservices.dec.ny.gov/arcgis/rest/services/dil/dil_land_assets_prm_cmp/MapServer/0), ASSET_UID 22302, NAME verbatim 'Mud Lake Outlet Tent Site', ASSET='PRIMITIVE TENT SITE', PUBLICUSE='Y', FACILITY='Shaker Mountain Wild Forest', REGION 5 (Northville office). DESCRIP='Small Tent Site With Fire Ring'; NOTES=''; ACCESSIBLE='N'. Coordinate is DEC's own point geometry (WGS84), pulled 2026-07-25 via the layer's /query endpoint (outSR=4326). FREE confirmed on dec.ny.gov/places/shaker-mountain-wild-forest (Shaker Mountain Wild Forest, read 2026-07-25): Fee='Free', open year-round, APSLMP class WILD FOREST; DEC Region 5 Northville 518-863-4545. COUNT DISCLOSURE: the DEC unit page enumerates six designated primitive tent sites on this wild forest -- two at Pine Lake and one each at Indian, Stewart, Holmes and Chase Lakes -- plus a Holmes Lake and a Chase Lake lean-to (a separate structure not listed here). DEC's mapping data returns seven 'Primitive Tent Site' points: those six lake sites plus a Mud Lake Outlet site on the Northville-Placid Trail that the unit page does not separately enumerate. This batch ships six (the three lake sites verified on their OpenStreetMap shorelines at high confidence, plus Stewart Lake, the first Pine Lake site, and the Mud Lake Outlet site at medium confidence) and HOLDS the second Pine Lake point, whose coordinate sits about half a mile from Pine Lake with no water body at the pin, pending a shoreline coordinate. No pins were invented. MED: this is a DEC-GIS-designated tent site with a fire ring, 247 ft from the mapped Northville-Placid Trail near Mud Lake's outlet (Mud Lake confirmed in OpenStreetMap and USGS GNIS), but it is NOT separately enumerated on the DEC unit page's tent-site list, so confirm it with DEC before relying on it ACCESS-COST CHECK (guardrail 2): the DEC page names no day-use, parking or access fee anywhere on the unit; NY has no statewide access pass; the only fees on the page are the separate Northampton Beach boat-launch fee and the Caroga Lake / Northampton Beach fee campgrounds offered as amenity alternatives, none of which gates this site; the only permit is the standard FREE Forest-Ranger permit for stays over 3 nights or groups of 10+. APSLMP CLASS = WILD FOREST. ELEVATION 1320 ft (USGS EPQS, 2026-07-25) -- far below any Adirondack high-elevation camping restriction. PAID-NEIGHBOUR GUARD: Caroga Lake Campground and Northampton Beach Campground fee areas (both 4+ mi away) bbox-guarded; this site passes. LIVE-CONDITIONS CHECK (DEC unit page, read 2026-07-25): no closure posted. MEASURED GEOMETRY (OpenStreetMap via the maps.mail.ru Overpass mirror, 2026-07-25, point-to-nearest-vertex on `out geom`; cross-checked against USGS GNIS and USGS EPQS): the DEC point sits ~247 ft from the mapped Northville-Placid Trail and ~3,443 ft from Mud Lake, on the lake's outlet; the DEC page routes to it via the Northville-Placid Trail. CORROBORATION: the DEC GIS point is ~247 ft from the mapped Northville-Placid Trail (OSM way 372779572) and ~3,443 ft from Mud Lake (OSM way 220419518; USGS GNIS lists Mud Lake at 43.21302,-74.23109), consistent with an 'outlet' site downstream of the lake on the NPT; DEC's GIS names it 'Mud Lake Outlet Tent Site' with DESCRIP 'Small Tent Site With Fire Ring'. It is a DEC-designated primitive tent site but is NOT separately enumerated on the unit page's tent-site list, so confidence is MED and disclosed. Plus DEC State Land Camping Rules (dec.ny.gov/things-to-do/camping/state-land-rules): designated-site + 150-foot rule, free Forest Ranger permit for stays over 3 nights or 10+ people. Ingest 2026-07-25.
Field check
Not verified on the ground. Nobody from here has camped it. It stays at Likely until someone does.

What we don’t know

A land record can put you within a few metres of a spot. It cannot tell you any of this — so check it yourself, and treat anything below as the open question it is.

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