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Orphan Saddle
Drive-up · Bureau of Land Management · ID · 47.04430, -115.94424
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Ask about this camp →Bureau of Land Management lists this site. On most of their ground you can camp away from developed sites pretty much anywhere — so treat this as a known-good spot, not the only one allowed. The unit sets stay limits and how far off road and water you must be. What changes is conditions — roads, gates, closures, fire rules. Check those with the unit before you commit to the drive.
USGS topo — contours & terrain
Aerial — USGS / NAIP
Weather outlook — at Orphan Saddle
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Live NWS area forecast (~2.5 km grid, not elevation-corrected). Camp sits at 5,943 ft.
Fire & smoke — around Orphan SaddleNIFC · AirNow
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Active wildfires from NIFC (within ~50 mi); air quality from AirNow. Always confirm current fire restrictions with the managing office before you go.
Everything you need — measured from Orphan Saddle · Bureau of Land Management · ID
▲ your camp. Rings are 15, 30 and 60 straight-line miles; bearings are approximate and roads run longer.
Nearest of each
- @Mail15 mi
- GGrocery16 mi
- DDump16 mi
- PPropane22 mi
- FFuel22 mi
- RxPharmacy30 mi
- HHardware30 mi
- LLaundry30 mi
- OOutfitter30 mi
- MMechanic30 mi
- EVEV fast charger34 mi
- +Urgent care35 mi
- WWater36 mi
- ShShower55 mi
≤30 mi30–4545+water
The read: water is a real 36-mi drive, fuel & food sit about 16 mi out, the nearest EV fast charger is a 34-mi run (and back).
One dot per need — the nearest of each kind, straight-line from camp. Places from OpenStreetMap (© OpenStreetMap contributors); the EV fast charger from the US DOE station locator. Open in Google Maps ↗
The site — Orphan Saddle
Access
Drive-up
Land
Bureau of Land Management
Elevation
5,943 ft
Ground slope
10.7% · noticeable
State
ID
Coordinates
47.04430, -115.94424
Cost
Free · OpenStreetMap fee tag: no
Nearby & resupply — around Orphan Saddle · Bureau of Land Management · ID (OpenStreetMap)
- Water featureTwin Spring Creek · ~0.1 mi · USGS: perennial stream
- Also mapped (OSM)Little Lost Lake (water) · mapped within 1.6 mi
- Nearest townHorsecamp · ~10.6 mi
- Rail & highwaynone mapped within 10 mi
- Drinking waternone within 10 mi
- Fuelnone within 30 mi
- Propane / LPGnone within 31 mi
- Dump station~16.1 mi
- GroceriesAvery Store & Motel · ~15.7 mi
- PharmacyKohal's · ~29.5 mi
- Mapping is thin out hereAn empty row means nothing is mapped within that radius — not that nothing exists. Small stores, seasonal resorts and single fuel pumps out here often never make it onto the map. Treat these as unconfirmed and ask locally.
EV charging — from Orphan Saddle · Bureau of Land Management · ID — nearest public DC fast & Level 2 (US DOE station data)
- Nearest public DC fast charger33.6 mi straight-line SW — (The Pie Safe) - Deary, ID - Tesla Supercharger (at a shopping center) · Tesla · CCS, NACS (Tesla) · 4 fast ports listed · listed open, last confirmed by AFDC 2026-04-21 · hours: 24 hours daily. Open to all vehicles. · directions
- Public DC fast stations within reachnone within 25 mi · 5 within 50 · 68 within 100 · 102 within 150
- Nearest listing CHAdeMO36.3 mi — Walmart 4249 (Smelterville, ID), Smelterville
- Nearest public Level 2 (J1772)54.1 mi — City of Palouse - Heritage Park · FLO · J1772 · 1 Level 2 port listed · listed open, last confirmed by AFDC 2026-09-16 · hours: 24 hours daily
- Also listed, not counted aboveNACS-only Level 2 — Alpine Falls Ranch - Tesla Destination, Superior, 46.3 mi · NACS (Tesla) · hours: 24 hours daily. Open to Teslas only. · AFDC lists it “Free”
- Pricing at the fast chargernot listed
- Power (kW)not listed by AFDC — “DC fast” spans roughly 24 to 350 kW, so ask the network.
- Read this honestlyStraight-line miles, like every distance on this site. Roads run longer than this, and you have to get back. We know where a charger is listed. We don’t know if it works today, how fast it is, or the road miles. Check the network before you commit.
Snapshot 2026-09-16 · AFDC record 449187 · US DOE Alternative Fuels Data Center
Nearby restrooms — around Orphan Saddle · Bureau of Land Management · ID — pit toilets, restrooms & rest areas (government data)
- Vault / pit toiletOrphan Point - Vault Toilet · at this camp · BLM
- Vault / pit toiletCrater Lake - Vault Toilet · ~1.7 mi SW · BLM
- Vault / pit toiletCrater Peak - Vault Toilet · ~2.4 mi SE · BLM
- Vault / pit toiletHobo Cedar Grove · ~8.5 mi W · USFS
Coming out here — Orphan Saddle · Bureau of Land Management · ID
- Surface water mapped nearby: USGS maps Twin Spring Creek as a perennial stream, ~0.1 mi from the pin (National Hydrography Dataset, data refreshed October 2022). Mapped as perennial is not the same as flowing today. Nobody has checked it for you. Filter or boil anything you drink.
- Ground slope around the pin: about 10.7% — noticeable. Measured on USGS's 3DEP elevation model (1 m data here), sampled every 10 metres around the point. That is the hillside, not the ground under your wheels — a graded pullout or a bench a few metres across is too small to show up at that spacing, and nobody has checked this one for you.
- No rail line and no interstate or US route is mapped within 10 mi of the pin. Checked against the FRA/BTS North American Rail Network (data updated Jul 21, 2026) and the Census's TIGER/Line primary roads (TIGER/Line 2025, released Oct 2025). Both are national files and both are maps of what is built, not counts of what moves on it.
- Power: Dave carries his own — batteries or solar. A generator will run your rig and it is also the thing everybody camped near you can hear.
- Getting online: Dave recommends Starlink. He has had it since SpaceX introduced it, used it for four years living on the road, and it delivers as promised — several hundred nights out, and he can count on one hand the places he could not connect. The cable on his unit runs 150 feet, which is usually all it takes to find enough sky. Starlink → Referral link — Starlink pays Dave $100 in cash if you sign up through it, and that money funds this site and the next trip. It costs you nothing and does not change the recommendation.
Open Orphan Saddle elsewhere
Other camps near Orphan Saddle
If this one is full, gated or washed out.
- USFS dispersed camp — ID #104~0.8 mi
- Grandmother Mountain Wilderness Study Area~1.2 mi
- USFS dispersed camp — ID #845~1.8 mi
- USFS dispersed camp — ID #403~3.2 mi
The unit that manages Orphan Saddle
Orphan Saddle is in the Coeur d'Alene Field Office, Coeur d'Alene District, Bureau of Land Management. Stay limits, permits, road closures and fire restrictions are set there, not at the campsite — check before you go. Its page maps every camp in it.
Snow, and when this opens
The nearest automatic snow station is Lost Lake at 6,090 ft, about 3 miles away. That is about the height of this camp, so it is a fair proxy. We do not repeat a depth here, because any number we stored would be stale by the time you read it — the station publishes today's.
How we know this — Orphan Saddle
Source
OpenStreetMap contributors
Confidence
Likely — The record is good enough to put a pin on, but thin in places. Treat the details as a starting point, not gospel.
How it was placed
auto: drive (road/trail right there)
EV chargers
US DOE Alternative Fuels Data Center station locator, snapshot 2026-09-16. Straight-line miles to the nearest public, open, unrestricted station; restricted and planned units are shown but never counted.
Field check
On the agency's books. The land manager inventoried this site, so its existence is not in question — current conditions are. Nobody from here has camped it recently.
What we don’t know about Orphan Saddle
A land record can put you within a few meters of a spot. It cannot tell you any of this — so check it yourself, and treat anything below as the open question it is.
- Road surface & last-mile access
- How many rigs actually fit
- Cell coverage by carrier
- Seasonal & winter access
- Current fire restrictions
- Whether any water here is drinkable
- Shade & wind exposure
- Noise and who else shows up
- Whether a listed EV charger works today, or the road miles to it
Before you go — Orphan Saddle
Finding water out here →What “dispersed” means here →Cold-weather camping →Gear & rig loadout →All field notes →