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The Vly Pond Campsite (Siamese Ponds Wilderness)

Drive-up · New York State Dept. of Environmental Conservation · NY · 43.69203, -74.07440
We haven't personally camped here. Everything below is pulled from public land data, USGS maps and OpenStreetMap — a real place on New York State Dept. of Environmental Conservation land, but not field-checked by us. Confirm road conditions, current access, stay limits and fire restrictions before you go.

FREE primitive camping in the 114,010-acre Siamese Ponds Wilderness, part of New York's Adirondack Forest Preserve, in the east-central Adirondacks between Indian Lake and North Creek -- Towns of Johnsburg and Thurman in Warren County and Towns of Indian Lake, Lake Pleasant and Wells in Hamilton County (DEC Region 5), reached from NY 8, NY 30 and the Thirteenth Lake / Old Farm Clearing roads off NY 28. DEC-designated primitive tent site ('The Vly Pond Campsite'). New York provides these designated primitive tent sites at NO CHARGE (the DEC unit page lists the fee as 'Free'); sites are first-come and cannot be reserved. This is a HIKE-IN backcountry site. DEC's page routes it from the Old Farm Clearing trailhead or the Barton Mines Road trailhead via the William Blake Pond Trail. For orientation, the nearest DEC-published trailhead or parking coordinate is the Barton Mines Road trailhead, about 0.7 miles away in a straight line -- trail mileage will be longer. PERMITS: a free New York State Forest Ranger permit is required for any stay of more than three nights at one spot, or for a group of ten or more (the DEC unit page sets no stricter local threshold, so the statewide rule governs). Arrange any permit in advance through the DEC Region 5 Warrensburg Office at 518-623-1200 (Mon-Fri, 8:30 to 4:45). Camp only at the marked site (look for the yellow 'Camp Here' disc) -- elsewhere on the Forest Preserve, camping is prohibited within 150 feet of any road, trail, spring, stream, pond or other water. These are primitive sites: typically just a fire ring, no hookups and no potable water, and designated TENT sites are for tents only. Pack out all trash, follow Leave No Trace and the DEC fire rules, and store food away from black bears. The unit is open year-round, but winter access is on ski or snowshoe and several stream crossings here have no bridge -- confirm current conditions, closures and this site's access with the DEC unit page (dec.ny.gov/places/siamese-ponds-wilderness) or the Warrensburg office before you go; we have not visited.

USGS topo — contours & terrain
USGS topographic map of The Vly Pond Campsite (Siamese Ponds Wilderness)
Aerial — USGS / NAIP
Aerial image of The Vly Pond Campsite (Siamese Ponds Wilderness)
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Active wildfires from NIFC (within ~50 mi); air quality from AirNow. Always confirm current fire restrictions with the managing office before you go.

Everything you need — measured from camp

15 MI30 MI60 MIYOUR CAMPN ↑Brant Lake Watering Tub · Water · 15 miWDump · 15 miDStewart's Shop · Fuel · 5 miFTops · Grocery · 4 miGRite Aid Pharmacy · Pharmacy · 4 miRxCurtis Lumber Co., Inc. · Hardware · 19 miHThe Shop · Mechanic · 11 miMNorth Creek Laundromat · Laundry · 4 miLShower · 16 miShAir-up · 37 miANorth Creek Health Center · Urgent care · 4 mi+Cloud-Splitter Outfitters · Outfitter · 19 miONorth River PO 12856 · Mail · 4 mi@
Straight-line miles · bearings approx · roads run longer
Nearest of each
  • @Mail4 mi
  • +Urgent care4 mi
  • GGrocery4 mi
  • RxPharmacy4 mi
  • LLaundry4 mi
  • FFuel5 mi
  • MMechanic11 mi
  • WWater15 mi
  • DDump15 mi
  • ShShower16 mi
  • OOutfitter19 mi
  • HHardware19 mi
  • AAir-up37 mi
≤30 mi30–4545+water

The read: water's a short hop out, fuel & food sit about 4 mi out.

Not within 60 mi: Propane. Plan those before you head up.

One dot per need — the nearest of each kind, straight-line from camp. Places from OpenStreetMap (© OpenStreetMap contributors). Open in Google Maps ↗

The site

Access
Drive-up
Land
New York State Dept. of Environmental Conservation
Elevation
2,031 ft
State
NY
Coordinates
43.69203, -74.07440
Cost
Free

Nearby & resupply (OpenStreetMap)

  • Water featureThe Vly (water) · nearby
  • Nearest townChristian Hill · ~3.1 mi
  • Drinking waternone within 10 mi
  • FuelStewart's Shop · ~5.1 mi
  • Propane / LPGPropane · ~30.3 mi
  • Dump stationDump station · ~15.2 mi
  • GroceriesTops · ~4.4 mi
  • PharmacyRite Aid Pharmacy · ~4.4 mi
  • Hospital / clinicNorth Creek Health Center · ~4.2 mi
  • HardwareCurtis Lumber Co., Inc. · ~19.3 mi

Nearby restrooms — pit toilets, restrooms & rest areas (government data)

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Other camps nearby

If this one is full, gated or washed out.

How we know this

Source
NY Dept. of Environmental Conservation
Confidence
Researched — The record is detailed and internally consistent, and the coordinates land where the managing agency says this site is.
How it was placed
NY DEC 'Primitive Campsite' GIS layer (https://gisservices.dec.ny.gov/arcgis/rest/services/dil/dil_land_assets_prm_cmp/MapServer/0), ASSET_UID 6425, ASSET='PRIMITIVE TENT SITE', PUBLICUSE='Y', FACILITY='Siamese Ponds Wilderness'; coordinate is DEC's own point geometry (WGS84), pulled 2026-07-23 via the layer's /find endpoint (honours sr=4326; /query returns projected UTM). FREE confirmed by DEC's own place page (dec.ny.gov/places/siamese-ponds-wilderness, read 2026-07-23): Fee='Free', 'Open for recreation: Year-round', "There are 39 primitive tent sites and four lean-tos located in the Siamese Pond Wilderness", all first-come and not reservable; plus DEC State Land Camping Rules (dec.ny.gov/things-to-do/camping/state-land-rules, re-read 2026-07-23): primitive camping is allowed on the Adirondack Forest Preserve (Wilderness is a category where it is allowed), with a free permit only for stays over 3 nights or groups of 10+, arranged via the DEC Region 5 Warrensburg Office at 518-623-1200 (Mon-Fri, 8:30 to 4:45). COUNT: GIS returns 42 records vs the page's stated 39 tent sites -- no foreign unit is dragged in (all 42 carry this FACILITY and Siamese-Ponds-region names); one record covers four sites ('13Th Lake Campsite 1, 11, 12, 13') and the page's prose list is not exhaustive. EXCLUDED as PAID: the 20 Indian Lake shoreline sites, which the page says are part of the DEC Indian Lake Islands Campground and require a paid reservation in season -- they are absent from this GIS layer (no 'Indian Lake' facility) and no site here is on that shoreline. Access classified as 'hike'; nearest DEC-published access point the Barton Mines Road trailhead, 0.69 mi straight-line. Ingest 2026-07-23.
Field check
Not verified on the ground. Nobody from here has camped it. It stays at Researched until someone does.

What we don’t know

A land record can put you within a few metres of a spot. It cannot tell you any of this — so check it yourself, and treat anything below as the open question it is.

Before you go

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