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Bog River Primitive Campsite 2 [DEC #3402] (Bog River Complex, lower Bog River)

Drive-up · New York State Dept. of Environmental Conservation · NY · 44.11271, -74.63815

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New York State Dept. of Environmental Conservation lists this site. Someone from the agency inventoried it, so it is a real camp — not a spot we guessed at. What changes is conditions — roads, gates, closures, fire rules. Check those with the unit before you commit to the drive.

FREE primitive camping: this is DEC-designated tent site 'Bog River Primitive Campsite 2' on the lower Bog River, in the Bog River Complex (Adirondack Forest Preserve, DEC Region 6) -- below the Lows Lower Dam, in the Horseshoe Lake area east of Hitchins Pond. New York provides it at NO CHARGE: the DEC Bog River Complex page lists the unit as 'Fee: Free' and 'Open for Recreation: Year-round', and DEC's own site record marks this a 'Designated Campsite'. It is a first-come, first-served designated site (tents only, marked with a yellow 'Camp Here' disc) with a fire ring and a full-sized pit privy. A free Forest-Ranger permit is required only for stays over 3 nights or groups of 10 or more -- otherwise just show up. There are no hookups and no potable water: bring or treat all water, pack out all trash, follow Leave No Trace and DEC fire rules, and store food from bears. HONEST CAVEATS: DEC's mapping files this point under the Round Lake Wilderness, but it sits on the lower Bog River and its free status comes from the Bog River Complex page; the exact spot is DEC's mapped point (no third-party cross-check), so confirm the site's yellow disc on arrival. The corridor is reached via Route 30 / Route 421 / Lower Dam Road -- we have NOT verified how this specific site is reached, so confirm access and current road/gate status with DEC before you go. (Note: the Lows Lake party-size and June-August landing-permit / reserved-island rules apply to Lows Lake proper, above the dams.) The nearby towns hope you will stop in and spend a little locally while passing through. Rules and site status can change and we have not visited -- confirm current conditions on the DEC page (dec.ny.gov/bog-river-complex) or with the DEC Region 6 Potsdam office / local Forest Ranger at (315) 265-3090 (Mon-Fri 8:00-4:30); Forest Rangers in an emergency via 911 or 1-833-NYS-RANGERS (1-833-697-7264) before you go.

Can I go now? — Bog River Primitive Campsite 2 [DEC #3402] (Bog River Complex, lower Bog River) · Round Lake Wilderness · NY

Open today Year-round per the agency record.

New York State Dept. of Environmental Conservation record: “Year-round” Read against the calendar on 2026-09-22; with JavaScript your browser re-checks it against today.

USGS topo — contours & terrain

USGS topographic map of Bog River Primitive Campsite 2 [DEC #3402] (Bog River Complex, lower Bog River)

Aerial — USGS / NAIP

Aerial image of Bog River Primitive Campsite 2 [DEC #3402] (Bog River Complex, lower Bog River)

Weather outlook — at Bog River Primitive Campsite 2 [DEC #3402] (Bog River Complex, lower Bog River)

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Live NWS area forecast (~2.5 km grid, not elevation-corrected). Camp sits at 1,726 ft.

Fire & smoke — around Bog River Primitive Campsite 2 [DEC #3402] (Bog River Complex, lower Bog River)NIFC · AirNow

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Active wildfires from NIFC (within ~50 mi); air quality from AirNow. Always confirm current fire restrictions with the managing office before you go.

Everything you need — measured from Bog River Primitive Campsite 2 [DEC #3402] (Bog River Complex, lower Bog River) · Round Lake Wilderness · NY

▲ your camp. Rings are 15, 30 and 60 straight-line miles; bearings are approximate and roads run longer.

Nearest of each

OOutfitter10 mi
+Urgent care11 mi
FFuel11 mi
GGrocery12 mi
HHardware12 mi
MMechanic12 mi
RxPharmacy12 mi
@Mail14 mi
WWater18 mi
ShShower18 mi
DDump18 mi
LLaundry25 mi
EVEV fast charger29 mi

≤30 mi30–4545+water

The read: water's a short hop out, fuel & food sit about 11 mi out.

Not within 60 mi: Propane. Plan those before you head up.

One dot per need — the nearest of each kind, straight-line from camp. Places from OpenStreetMap (© OpenStreetMap contributors); the EV fast charger from the US DOE station locator. Open in Google Maps ↗

The site — Bog River Primitive Campsite 2 [DEC #3402] (Bog River Complex, lower Bog River)

Access

Drive-up

Land

New York State Dept. of Environmental Conservation

Elevation

1,726 ft

Ground slope

6.8% · gentle

Nearest rail line

~0.5 mi · main line

State

Coordinates

44.11271, -74.63815

Cost

Free

Nearby & resupply — around Bog River Primitive Campsite 2 [DEC #3402] (Bog River Complex, lower Bog River) · Round Lake Wilderness · NY (OpenStreetMap)

Water featureHitchins Pond · under 0.1 mi · USGS: perennial lake or pond
Nearest townHorseshoe · ~1.6 mi
Nearest rail line~0.5 mi · main line
Nearest highwayno interstate or US route within 10 mi
Drinking waternone within 10 mi
FuelFuel · ~11.4 mi
Propane / LPGnone within 31 mi
Dump station~18.4 mi
GroceriesStewart's Shops · ~11.5 mi
PharmacyKinney Drugs · ~12.0 mi
Hospital / clinicCamp Massawepie Health Lodge · ~10.6 mi
HardwareSturdy Supply & Rental · ~29.2 mi

EV charging — from Bog River Primitive Campsite 2 [DEC #3402] (Bog River Complex, lower Bog River) · Round Lake Wilderness · NY — nearest public DC fast & Level 2 (US DOE station data)

Nearest public DC fast charger29.1 mi straight-line NE — Upstate Auto, Saranac Lake, NY · VIALYNK · J1772, CCS · 2 fast ports listed · listed open, last confirmed by AFDC 2026-09-16 · hours: 24 hours daily · directions
Public DC fast stations within reachnone within 25 mi · 16 within 50 · 173 within 100 · 406 within 150
Nearest listing NACS (Tesla)29.2 mi — ChargeSmart EV - Saranac Lake, Saranac Lake
Nearest listing CHAdeMO42.0 mi — EVolve NY Potsdam, Potsdam
Nearest public Level 2 (J1772)14.2 mi — Otto's Abode, Wanakena, NY (at a parking lot) · Non-Networked · J1772 · 1 Level 2 port listed · listed open, last confirmed by AFDC 2024-03-14 · hours: 24 hours daily
Also listed, not counted aboveNACS-only Level 2 — Faust Motel - Tesla Destination, Tupper Lake, 11.7 mi · NACS (Tesla) · hours: 24 hours daily. Open to Teslas only. · AFDC lists it “Free”
Pricing at the fast chargernot listed
Power (kW)not listed by AFDC — “DC fast” spans roughly 24 to 350 kW, so ask the network.
Read this honestlyStraight-line miles, like every distance on this site. Roads run longer than this, and you have to get back. We know where a charger is listed. We don’t know if it works today, how fast it is, or the road miles. Check the network before you commit.
Snapshot 2026-09-16 · AFDC record 351665 · US DOE Alternative Fuels Data Center

Nearby restrooms — around Bog River Primitive Campsite 2 [DEC #3402] (Bog River Complex, lower Bog River) · Round Lake Wilderness · NY — pit toilets, restrooms & rest areas (government data)

No mapped restroom within 30 miles — plan to pack it out.

Coming out here — Bog River Primitive Campsite 2 [DEC #3402] (Bog River Complex, lower Bog River) · Round Lake Wilderness · NY

Surface water mapped nearby: USGS maps Hitchins Pond as a perennial lake or pond, under 0.1 mi from the pin (National Hydrography Dataset, data refreshed October 2022). Mapped as perennial is not the same as flowing today. Nobody has checked it for you. Filter or boil anything you drink.
Ground slope around the pin: about 6.8% — gentle. Measured on USGS's 3DEP elevation model (1 m data here), sampled every 10 metres around the point. That is the hillside, not the ground under your wheels — a graded pullout or a bench a few metres across is too small to show up at that spacing, and nobody has checked this one for you.
Rail line mapped ~0.5 mi from the pin — the national rail atlas classes it as a main line. The atlas also records tourist, museum or scenic passenger service on it. That is the FRA/BTS North American Rail Network (data updated Jul 21, 2026), which records that a line is there and what class of track it is. Whether anything runs on it, how often, and at what hour, it does not say, and nobody has checked this one for you.
No interstate or US route is mapped within 10 mi of the pin in the Census's TIGER/Line primary roads (TIGER/Line 2025, released Oct 2025). That file holds the divided, limited-access highways only — a state expressway or a two-lane US route near this camp would not be in it.
Power: Dave carries his own — batteries or solar. A generator will run your rig and it is also the thing everybody camped near you can hear.
Getting online: Dave recommends Starlink. He has had it since SpaceX introduced it, used it for four years living on the road, and it delivers as promised — several hundred nights out, and he can count on one hand the places he could not connect. The cable on his unit runs 150 feet, which is usually all it takes to find enough sky. Starlink → Referral link — Starlink pays Dave $100 in cash if you sign up through it, and that money funds this site and the next trip. It costs you nothing and does not change the recommendation.

Open Bog River Primitive Campsite 2 [DEC #3402] (Bog River Complex, lower Bog River) elsewhere

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The unit that manages Bog River Primitive Campsite 2 [DEC #3402] (Bog River Complex, lower Bog River)

Bog River Primitive Campsite 2 [DEC #3402] (Bog River Complex, lower Bog River) is in Round Lake Wilderness, a wilderness managed by NY DEC. Stay limits, permits, road closures and fire restrictions are set there, not at the campsite — check before you go. Its page maps every camp in it.

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How we know this — Bog River Primitive Campsite 2 [DEC #3402] (Bog River Complex, lower Bog River)

Open season

Year-round

Permit

Free permit needed only for stays over 3 nights or groups of 10 or more

Source

NY Dept. of Environmental Conservation

Confidence

Likely — The record is good enough to put a pin on, but thin in places. Treat the details as a starting point, not gospel.

How it was placed

NY DEC 'Primitive Campsite' GIS layer (https://gisservices.dec.ny.gov/arcgis/rest/services/dil/dil_land_assets_prm_cmp/MapServer/0), ASSET_UID 3402, GIS NAME verbatim 'Bog River Primitive Campsite 2', ASSET='PRIMITIVE TENT SITE', PUBLICUSE='Y', DESCRIP='Designated Campsite' (DEC's own positive camping-allowed signal), NOTES='Campsite With Full Sized Privy. Checked 11/2015.', ACCESSIBLE='N'. Coordinate is DEC's own point geometry (WGS84), pulled 2026-07-26 via the layer's /query endpoint (outSR=4326, one paced query -- the DEC GIS host rate-blocks bursts). ATTRIBUTION (disclosed): the GIS tags this point FACILITY='Round Lake Wilderness', but it lies on the LOWER Bog River below the Lows Lower Dam and its free/legal basis is the Bog River Complex, not the Round Lake Wilderness place page (which counts only its own 11 sites and lists the Bog River Complex separately). It was HELD by the 2026-07-23 Round Lake ingester pending exactly this Bog-River-Complex verification; resolved this fire. FREE confirmed on the DEC page dec.ny.gov/bog-river-complex (Bog River Complex, WebFetch 2026-07-26): 'Fee: Free', 'Open for Recreation: Year-round' (the May 1-Sep 30 window is only the Big Tupper/Piercefield Flow easement); the page counts the complex's camping by sub-area (Horseshoe Lake WF 25 / Lows Lake-Bog River Flow 39 / Hitchins Pond 5), all first-come and free, access via Route 30 / Route 421 / Lower Dam Road. CONFIDENCE (MED): existence + designated-status + free-status are each independently confirmed (DEC GIS asset record + DEC page), but the page does not individually name/count these three and the GIS facility tag is imperfect, and there is no OSM/third-party coordinate cross-check (overpass.osm.ch 2026-07-26 -> 0 camp nodes in the bbox, normal for the Adirondack interior) -> MED, not HIGH. PAID-NEIGHBOUR GUARD: OSM tourism=camp_site[fee=yes] sweep over 44.03..44.18 N, -74.75..-74.52 W (2026-07-26) returned 0 -- no fee campground near. ELEVATION ~1726 ft (USGS EPQS, 2026-07-26) -- DEC Region 6, no high-elevation camping restriction. LAND/FEE (guardrail 2): Adirondack Forest Preserve, no entry/access/day-use fee; only a FREE Forest-Ranger permit for stays over 3 nights or groups of 10+. LEGALITY (guardrail 1): DEC-DESIGNATED PUBLICUSE primitive tent site (DESCRIP 'Designated Campsite'; yellow 'Camp Here' disc, tents only), camping explicitly allowed, first come-first served. Ingest 2026-07-26. | auto:agency-trust 2026-08-18: state agency GIS record with a source URL and coordinates, confidence not low. Fee value is the agency's own, not field-checked. Not field-verified -- confirm access, road conditions and fire rules before you go.

Season

Read from the agency's own season / closure text in this record (data/conditions.py) and checked against the calendar. The words we read are printed under the verdict at the top of the page.

EV chargers

US DOE Alternative Fuels Data Center station locator, snapshot 2026-09-16. Straight-line miles to the nearest public, open, unrestricted station; restricted and planned units are shown but never counted.

Field check

On the agency's books. The land manager inventoried this site, so its existence is not in question — current conditions are. Nobody from here has camped it recently.

What we don’t know about Bog River Primitive Campsite 2 [DEC #3402] (Bog River Complex, lower Bog River)

A land record can put you within a few meters of a spot. It cannot tell you any of this — so check it yourself, and treat anything below as the open question it is.

Road surface & last-mile access
How many rigs actually fit
Cell coverage by carrier
Current fire restrictions
Whether any water here is drinkable
Shade & wind exposure
Noise and who else shows up
Whether a listed EV charger works today, or the road miles to it

Before you go — Bog River Primitive Campsite 2 [DEC #3402] (Bog River Complex, lower Bog River)

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