Agency-listedUSFS · dispersedFree
Forest Rd 4409C
Drive-up · U.S. Forest Service · MT · 45.63910, -105.99991
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Ask about this camp →U.S. Forest Service lists this site. On most of their ground you can camp away from developed sites pretty much anywhere — so treat this as a known-good spot, not the only one allowed. The unit sets stay limits and how far off road and water you must be. What changes is conditions — roads, gates, closures, fire rules. Check those with the unit before you commit to the drive.
USGS topo — contours & terrain
Aerial — USGS / NAIP
Weather outlook — at Forest Rd 4409C
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Live NWS area forecast (~2.5 km grid, not elevation-corrected). Camp sits at 4,145 ft.
Fire & smoke — around Forest Rd 4409CNIFC · AirNow
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Active wildfires from NIFC (within ~50 mi); air quality from AirNow. Always confirm current fire restrictions with the managing office before you go.
Everything you need — measured from Forest Rd 4409C · Custer Gallatin National Forest · MT
Straight-line miles · bearings approx · roads run longer
Nearest of each
- GGrocery13 mi
- HHardware13 mi
- @Mail13 mi
- +Urgent care13 mi
- FFuel14 mi
- MMechanic52 mi
- EVEV fast charger53 mi
- LLaundry53 mi
- RxPharmacy54 mi
≤30 mi30–4545+water
The read: fuel & food sit about 13 mi out, the nearest EV fast charger is a 53-mi run (and back).
Not within 60 mi: Water, Dump, Propane. Plan those before you head up.
One dot per need — the nearest of each kind, straight-line from camp. Places from OpenStreetMap (© OpenStreetMap contributors); the EV fast charger from the US DOE station locator. Open in Google Maps ↗
The site — Forest Rd 4409C
Access
Drive-up
Land
U.S. Forest Service · dispersed
Elevation
4,145 ft
State
MT
Coordinates
45.63910, -105.99991
Cost
Free
Nearby & resupply — around Forest Rd 4409C · Custer Gallatin National Forest · MT (OpenStreetMap)
- Water featureEast Fork Otter Creek (stream) · nearby
- Nearest townStacey · ~7.7 mi
- Drinking waternone within 10 mi
- Fuelnone within 30 mi
- Propane / LPGnone within 31 mi
- Groceriesnone within 30 mi
- Mapping is thin out hereAn empty row means nothing is mapped within that radius — not that nothing exists. Small stores, seasonal resorts and single fuel pumps out here often never make it onto the map. Treat these as unconfirmed and ask locally.
EV charging — from Forest Rd 4409C · Custer Gallatin National Forest · MT — nearest public DC fast & Level 2 (US DOE station data)
- Nearest public DC fast charger52.6 mi straight-line N — Miles City, MT - Tesla Supercharger (at a gas station) · Tesla · NACS (Tesla) · 8 fast ports listed · listed open, last confirmed by AFDC 2026-06-18 · hours: 24 hours daily. NACS partner enabled. · directions
- Public DC fast stations within reachnone within 25 mi · none within 50 · 8 within 100 · 19 within 150
- Nearest listing CCS53.1 mi — Town Pump Miles City (Miles City, MT), Miles City
- Nearest listing CHAdeMO72.9 mi — SHERIDAN MOTORS CPE250, Sheridan
- Nearest public Level 2 (J1772)72.9 mi — SHERIDAN MOTORS CT4000 · ChargePoint Network · J1772 · 2 Level 2 ports listed · listed open, last confirmed by AFDC 2026-09-16 · hours: 24 hours daily
- Also listed, not counted aboveLevel 2, restricted access — Broadus Motels, Broadus, 31.6 mi · NACS (Tesla) · hours: 24 hours daily; for guest use only; see front desk for access
- Pricing at the fast chargernot listed
- Power (kW)not listed by AFDC — “DC fast” spans roughly 24 to 350 kW, so ask the network.
- Read this honestlyStraight-line miles, like every distance on this site. Roads run longer than this, and you have to get back. We know where a charger is listed. We don’t know if it works today, how fast it is, or the road miles. Check the network before you commit.
Snapshot 2026-09-16 · AFDC record 163531 · US DOE Alternative Fuels Data Center
Nearby restrooms — around Forest Rd 4409C · Custer Gallatin National Forest · MT — pit toilets, restrooms & rest areas (government data)
- Vault / pit toiletWhite Tail Cabin · ~1.2 mi E · USFS
- Vault / pit toiletRed Shale · ~8.6 mi SW · USFS
- Vault / pit toiletBlacks Pond · ~24.5 mi SW · USFS
- RestroomCow Creek · ~25.6 mi SW · USFS
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Other camps near Forest Rd 4409C
If this one is full, gated or washed out.
- Forest Rd 4409B~0.3 mi
- Forest Rd 44236B~0.5 mi
- Forest Rd 44236A~0.5 mi
- Forest Rd 4409A~0.8 mi
The unit that manages Forest Rd 4409C
Stay limits, road closures and fire restrictions at Forest Rd 4409C are set by Custer Gallatin National Forest, not by the campsite — check there before you go.
How we know this — Forest Rd 4409C
Source
U.S. Forest Service recreation data
Confidence
Likely — The record is good enough to put a pin on, but thin in places. Treat the details as a starting point, not gospel.
How it was placed
USFS/BLM authoritative: free & dispersed. Access not field-checked (assumed drive-up).
EV chargers
US DOE Alternative Fuels Data Center station locator, snapshot 2026-09-16. Straight-line miles to the nearest public, open, unrestricted station; restricted and planned units are shown but never counted.
Field check
On the agency's books. The land manager inventoried this site, so its existence is not in question — current conditions are. Nobody from here has camped it recently.
What we don’t know about Forest Rd 4409C
A land record can put you within a few meters of a spot. It cannot tell you any of this — so check it yourself, and treat anything below as the open question it is.
- Road surface & last-mile access
- How many rigs actually fit
- Cell coverage by carrier
- Seasonal & winter access
- Current fire restrictions
- Whether any water here is drinkable
- Shade & wind exposure
- Noise and who else shows up
- Whether a listed EV charger works today, or the road miles to it
Before you go — Forest Rd 4409C
Finding water out here →What “dispersed” means here →Forest road numbers →Off-grid communication →All field notes →
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