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O'Neill Flow Tentsite [DEC #3978] (Blue Mountain Wild Forest)

Drive-up · New York State Dept. of Environmental Conservation · NY · 43.87568, -74.36665

We haven't personally camped here. Everything below is pulled from public land data, USGS maps and OpenStreetMap — a real place on New York State Dept. of Environmental Conservation land, but not field-checked by us. Confirm road conditions, current access, stay limits and fire restrictions before you go.

FREE first-come primitive tent camping at the O'Neill Flow Tentsite, a DEC-mapped primitive tent site near the water in the Blue Mountain Wild Forest (Hamilton County, central Adirondacks, DEC Region 5). New York provides it at NO CHARGE: the DEC Blue Mountain Wild Forest page lists the unit as 'Free' and open year-round, and confirms 'At-large primitive camping is also allowed' alongside its designated first-come primitive tent sites. This is one of DEC's mapped tent sites, about 41 feet from open water (DEC names it O'Neill Flow; the nearest OSM-named water here is Tirrell Pond) (measured against OpenStreetMap; nearest the Northville-Placid Trail 186 ft). CONFIDENCE / RULES NOTE -- please read: this is MEDIUM confidence. The DEC page says the unit (with the Township 19 Easement lands) has ELEVEN designated primitive tent sites plus two lean-tos, but it does not publish which of DEC's 23 mapped tent-site points those eleven are -- so treat this spot as an established DEC-mapped tent site rather than a certified designated one. Away from a designated site, New York's rule is to camp at least 150 feet from any road, trail, or water; on the ground, use the established/hardened tent pad and look for a round yellow DEC 'Camp Here' disc, and if the spot is not a marked designated site, move back 150+ feet from the water and road. These are FREE, first-come sites -- no reservation, no fee, no facilities (no hookups, no showers, no potable water); this is NOT a reservable DEC fee campground. A free Forest Ranger permit is required only if you stay more than 3 nights or camp with a group of 10 or more (arrange it through the DEC Region 5 Office in Ray Brook at (518) 897-1300 (Forest Rangers via 911 or DEC dispatch 1-833-NYS-RANGERS)). Bring water or treat what you take from the lake or a stream, pack out all trash, follow Leave No Trace and the DEC fire rules, and store food from bears (this is black-bear country). This site is around 1918 feet elevation. SEASON / ACCESS: DEC lists the unit as open year-round, but the trails and access roads can be muddy, washed or snow-covered off-season -- confirm current conditions and this specific site's status on the DEC page (dec.ny.gov/places/blue-mountain-wild-forest) or with the DEC Region 5 Ray Brook office (518-897-1300) before you go; we have not visited.

USGS topo — contours & terrain

USGS topographic map of O'Neill Flow Tentsite [DEC #3978] (Blue Mountain Wild Forest)

Aerial — USGS / NAIP

Aerial image of O'Neill Flow Tentsite [DEC #3978] (Blue Mountain Wild Forest)

Weather outlook

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Live NWS area forecast (~2.5 km grid, not elevation-corrected). Camp sits at 1,918 ft.

Fire & smokeNIFC · AirNow

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Active wildfires from NIFC (within ~50 mi); air quality from AirNow. Always confirm current fire restrictions with the managing office before you go.

Everything you need — measured from camp

Straight-line miles · bearings approx · roads run longer

Nearest of each

ShShower3 mi
FFuel3 mi
GGrocery3 mi
+Urgent care7 mi
@Mail7 mi
MMechanic8 mi
LLaundry8 mi
OOutfitter13 mi
RxPharmacy22 mi
HHardware23 mi
WWater23 mi
DDump27 mi
AAir-up56 mi

≤30 mi30–4545+water

The read: water is a real 23-mi drive, fuel & food sit about 3 mi out.

Not within 60 mi: Propane. Plan those before you head up.

One dot per need — the nearest of each kind, straight-line from camp. Places from OpenStreetMap (© OpenStreetMap contributors). Open in Google Maps ↗

The site

Access

Drive-up

Land

New York State Dept. of Environmental Conservation

Elevation

1,918 ft

State

Coordinates

43.87568, -74.36665

Cost

Free

Nearby & resupply (OpenStreetMap)

Water featureTirrell Pond (water) · nearby
Nearest townBlue Mountain Lake · ~3.5 mi
Drinking waternone within 10 mi
FuelStewart's · ~6.9 mi
Propane / LPGnone within 31 mi
Dump stationDump station · ~26.6 mi
GroceriesStore · ~3.4 mi
PharmacyRite Aid Pharmacy · ~22.4 mi
Hospital / clinicNorth Creek Health Center · ~22.4 mi

Nearby restrooms — pit toilets, restrooms & rest areas (government data)

No mapped restroom within 30 miles — plan to pack it out.

Open this spot elsewhere

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Other camps nearby

If this one is full, gated or washed out.

How we know this

Source

NY Dept. of Environmental Conservation

Confidence

Likely — The record is good enough to put a pin on, but thin in places. Treat the details as a starting point, not gospel.

How it was placed

NY DEC 'Primitive Campsite' GIS layer (https://gisservices.dec.ny.gov/arcgis/rest/services/dil/dil_land_assets_prm_cmp/MapServer/0), ASSET_UID 3978, NAME verbatim 'O'Neill Flow Tentsite', ASSET='PRIMITIVE TENT SITE', PUBLICUSE='Y', ACCESSIBLE='N', FACILITY='Blue Mountain Wild Forest', DEC Region 5 (Ray Brook). DESCRIP=''; NOTES=''. Coordinate is DEC's own point geometry (WGS84), pulled 2026-07-25 via the layer's /query endpoint (outSR=4326). FREE confirmed on dec.ny.gov/places/blue-mountain-wild-forest (Blue Mountain Wild Forest, read 2026-07-25): 'Fee: Free', open year-round; Hamilton County; DEC Region 5 Ray Brook (518) 897-1300. COUNT/CONFIDENCE (MED): the DEC page states 'The Blue Mountain Lake Wild Forest and Township 19 Conservation Easement Lands contain eleven designated primitive tent sites and two lean-tos ... At-large primitive camping is also allowed.' DEC's GIS maps 23 named primitive-tent-site points for the unit but the page does NOT enumerate which 23->11 are the designated ones, so this site, 'O'Neill Flow Tentsite', ships MED (real DEC-mapped PUBLICUSE tent site, camping allowed unit-wide, but NOT certifiable as one of the 11 designated -- honest floor, not HIGH). IDENTITY/LOCATION CORROBORATION: measured against OpenStreetMap this point is about 41 feet from open water (DEC names it O'Neill Flow; the nearest OSM-named water here is Tirrell Pond); nearest the Northville-Placid Trail 186 ft (OSM `out geom`, maps.mail.ru overpass mirror, 2026-07-25, point-to-nearest-vertex). CLUSTER: backcountry water site. ACCESS-COST CHECK (guardrail 2): NY has no statewide access pass; the only fee named on the unit page is the Lake Durant Campground boat-launch day-use fee when that developed campground is open (not an access fee for these primitive sites). LEGALITY (guardrail 1): DEC-mapped, publicly-usable primitive tent site (PUBLICUSE='Y') in a Wild Forest where the page confirms both designated and at-large primitive camping are allowed; legality rests on DEC-mapped established-site (Windham-Blackhead basis), not per-site designation. No closure posted for the unit (checked 2026-07-25). ELEVATION ~1918 ft (USGS EPQS, 2026-07-25); central-Adirondack lake/road terrain -- neither the Catskill 3,500-ft nor the Adirondack 4,000-ft camping ban applies. Plus DEC State Land Camping Rules (dec.ny.gov/things-to-do/camping/state-land-rules): free Forest Ranger permit for stays over 3 nights or groups of 10+. Ingest 2026-07-25.

Field check

Not verified on the ground. Nobody from here has camped it. It stays at Likely until someone does.

What we don’t know

A land record can put you within a few metres of a spot. It cannot tell you any of this — so check it yourself, and treat anything below as the open question it is.

Road surface & last-mile access
How many rigs actually fit
Cell coverage by carrier
Seasonal & winter access
Current fire restrictions
Whether any water here is drinkable
Shade & wind exposure
Noise and who else shows up

Before you go

Your first dispersed night →Fire rules & restrictions →Getting unstuck →Power off-grid →All field notes →

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