Agency-listedUSFS · dispersedFree
Pal1705Rd-004
Drive-up · U.S. Forest Service · ID · 46.79418, -116.11798
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Ask about this camp →U.S. Forest Service lists this site. On most of their ground you can camp away from developed sites pretty much anywhere — so treat this as a known-good spot, not the only one allowed. The unit sets stay limits and how far off road and water you must be. What changes is conditions — roads, gates, closures, fire rules. Check those with the unit before you commit to the drive.
USGS topo — contours & terrain
Aerial — USGS / NAIP
Weather outlook — at Pal1705Rd-004
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Live NWS area forecast (~2.5 km grid, not elevation-corrected). Camp sits at 3,221 ft.
Fire & smoke — around Pal1705Rd-004NIFC · AirNow
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Active wildfires from NIFC (within ~50 mi); air quality from AirNow. Always confirm current fire restrictions with the managing office before you go.
Everything you need — measured from Pal1705Rd-004 · Nez Perce-Clearwater National Forest · ID
Straight-line miles · bearings approx · roads run longer
Nearest of each
- @Mail3 mi
- WWater17 mi
- PPropane21 mi
- FFuel21 mi
- GGrocery21 mi
- HHardware21 mi
- EVEV fast charger21 mi
- DDump33 mi
- MMechanic41 mi
- RxPharmacy41 mi
- LLaundry41 mi
- OOutfitter42 mi
- +Urgent care42 mi
- ShShower54 mi
≤30 mi30–4545+water
The read: water's a short hop out, fuel & food sit about 21 mi out.
One dot per need — the nearest of each kind, straight-line from camp. Places from OpenStreetMap (© OpenStreetMap contributors); the EV fast charger from the US DOE station locator. Open in Google Maps ↗
The site — Pal1705Rd-004
Access
Drive-up
Land
U.S. Forest Service · dispersed
Elevation
3,221 ft
State
ID
Coordinates
46.79418, -116.11798
Cost
Free
Nearby & resupply — around Pal1705Rd-004 · Nez Perce-Clearwater National Forest · ID (OpenStreetMap)
- Drinking waternone within 10 mi
- FuelCrossroads (Exxon) · ~20.7 mi
- Propane / LPGCrossroads (Exxon) · ~20.7 mi
- GroceriesWhite Pine Foods · ~20.9 mi
- HardwareDeary Lawn, Saw, and Hardware · ~20.9 mi
EV charging — from Pal1705Rd-004 · Nez Perce-Clearwater National Forest · ID — nearest public DC fast & Level 2 (US DOE station data)
- Nearest public DC fast charger20.9 mi straight-line W — (The Pie Safe) - Deary, ID - Tesla Supercharger (at a shopping center) · Tesla · CCS, NACS (Tesla) · 4 fast ports listed · listed open, last confirmed by AFDC 2026-04-21 · hours: 24 hours daily. Open to all vehicles. · directions
- Public DC fast stations within reach1 within 25 mi · 9 within 50 · 66 within 100 · 112 within 150
- Nearest listing CHAdeMO39.3 mi — CLRWTR RVR CSNO IT'SEYEYECASINO, Kamiah
- Nearest public Level 2 (J1772)42.5 mi — CLRWTR RVR CSNO NMPH STATION, Lapwai, ID · ChargePoint Network · J1772 · 2 Level 2 ports listed · listed open, last confirmed by AFDC 2026-09-16 · hours: 24 hours daily
- Also listed, not counted aboveNACS-only Level 2 — PCEI Nature Center - Tesla Destination, Moscow, 41.4 mi · NACS (Tesla) · hours: 24 hours daily. Open to Teslas only. · AFDC lists it “Free”
- Pricing at the fast chargernot listed
- Power (kW)not listed by AFDC — “DC fast” spans roughly 24 to 350 kW, so ask the network.
- Read this honestlyStraight-line miles, like every distance on this site. Roads run longer than this, and you have to get back. We know where a charger is listed. We don’t know if it works today, how fast it is, or the road miles. Check the network before you commit.
Snapshot 2026-09-16 · AFDC record 449187 · US DOE Alternative Fuels Data Center
Nearby restrooms — around Pal1705Rd-004 · Nez Perce-Clearwater National Forest · ID — pit toilets, restrooms & rest areas (government data)
- Vault / pit toiletPartridge Creek Camp · ~1.6 mi SW · USFS
- Vault / pit toiletElk Creek Campground Group Picnic · ~2.6 mi W · USFS
- Vault / pit toiletElk Creek Campground · ~2.6 mi W · USFS
- Vault / pit toiletElk Creek Falls · ~4.5 mi SW · USFS
Coming out here — Pal1705Rd-004 · Nez Perce-Clearwater National Forest · ID
- No surface water within about a mile and a half in our records — which is not proof there is none, only that we found none. Plan to carry washing water as well as drinking water.
- Assume no services at all. Most dispersed camping in a national forest has none: no tap, no power, no dump, often no toilet. Everything you need, you bring.
- Power: Dave carries his own — batteries or solar. A generator will run your rig and it is also the thing everybody camped near you can hear.
- Getting online: Dave recommends Starlink. He has had it since SpaceX introduced it, used it for four years living on the road, and it delivers as promised — several hundred nights out, and he can count on one hand the places he could not connect. The cable on his unit runs 150 feet, which is usually all it takes to find enough sky. Starlink → Referral link — Dave gets service credit if you sign up through it. It costs you nothing and does not change the recommendation.
Open Pal1705Rd-004 elsewhere
Other camps near Pal1705Rd-004
If this one is full, gated or washed out.
- Pal1705Rd-005~0.2 mi
- Pal1705Rd-006~0.5 mi
- Partridge Creek Camp~1.6 mi
- Pal1705Rd-003A~1.6 mi
The unit that manages Pal1705Rd-004
Stay limits, road closures and fire restrictions at Pal1705Rd-004 are set by Nez Perce-Clearwater National Forest, not by the campsite — check there before you go.
Snow, and when this opens
The nearest automatic snow station is Elk Butte at 5,680 ft, about 3 miles away. It sits about 2,459 ft higher than this camp, so treat it as a guide rather than a reading for this spot. We do not repeat a depth here, because any number we stored would be stale by the time you read it — the station publishes today's.
How we know this — Pal1705Rd-004
Source
U.S. Forest Service recreation data
Confidence
Likely — The record is good enough to put a pin on, but thin in places. Treat the details as a starting point, not gospel.
How it was placed
USFS/BLM authoritative: free & dispersed. Access not field-checked (assumed drive-up).
EV chargers
US DOE Alternative Fuels Data Center station locator, snapshot 2026-09-16. Straight-line miles to the nearest public, open, unrestricted station; restricted and planned units are shown but never counted.
Field check
On the agency's books. The land manager inventoried this site, so its existence is not in question — current conditions are. Nobody from here has camped it recently.
What we don’t know about Pal1705Rd-004
A land record can put you within a few meters of a spot. It cannot tell you any of this — so check it yourself, and treat anything below as the open question it is.
- Road surface & last-mile access
- How many rigs actually fit
- Cell coverage by carrier
- Seasonal & winter access
- Current fire restrictions
- Whether any water here is drinkable
- Shade & wind exposure
- Noise and who else shows up
- Whether a listed EV charger works today, or the road miles to it
Before you go — Pal1705Rd-004
Water on public land →What “dispersed” means here →Forest road numbers →Off-grid communication →All field notes →
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