Agency-listedUSFS · dispersedFreeRoad season: open (MVUM)
Crazies 8911-200
Drive-up · U.S. Forest Service · MT · 46.29133, -110.47597
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Ask about this camp →U.S. Forest Service lists this site. On most of their ground you can camp away from developed sites pretty much anywhere — so treat this as a known-good spot, not the only one allowed. The unit sets stay limits and how far off road and water you must be. What changes is conditions — roads, gates, closures, fire rules. Check those with the unit before you commit to the drive.
Nearest road on the Forest Service MVUM — Crazies 8911-200 · Helena-Lewis and Clark National Forest · MT
The nearest road on the Forest Service MVUM is FR 8911 (Forty Creek), 70 ft from the pin. The MVUM lists it as native material surface and maintenance level 2 – high-clearance vehicles.
Road season: open (MVUM) The MVUM lists FR 8911 (Forty Creek), 70 ft from the pin, open to passenger vehicles year-round.
MVUM record for FR 8911 (Forty Creek): “01/01-12/31” Read against the calendar on 2026-09-22; with JavaScript your browser re-checks it against today.
From the Forest Service's own Motor Vehicle Use Map roads layer (EDW, Clearinghouse refresh Aug 30, 2026), straight-line from the pin to the nearest mapped segment. The nearest segment is not necessarily the way in, a maintenance level is the agency's class and not a report on today, and a road's season is the road's — it is not a campground order. What the levels mean → What an MVUM is →
USGS topo — contours & terrain
Aerial — USGS / NAIP
Weather outlook — at Crazies 8911-200
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Live NWS area forecast (~2.5 km grid, not elevation-corrected). Camp sits at the elevation shown above.
Fire & smoke — around Crazies 8911-200NIFC · AirNow
Checking active fires & air quality…
Active wildfires from NIFC (within ~50 mi); air quality from AirNow. Always confirm current fire restrictions with the managing office before you go.
Everything you need — measured from Crazies 8911-200 · Helena-Lewis and Clark National Forest · MT
▲ your camp. Rings are 15, 30 and 60 straight-line miles; bearings are approximate and roads run longer.
Nearest of each
- GGrocery9 mi
- @Mail14 mi
- FFuel27 mi
- RxPharmacy27 mi
- LLaundry27 mi
- ShShower27 mi
- +Urgent care32 mi
- OOutfitter38 mi
- HHardware40 mi
- EVEV fast charger40 mi
- MMechanic43 mi
- WWater48 mi
- DDump55 mi
≤30 mi30–4545+water
The read: water is a real 48-mi drive, fuel & food sit about 9 mi out, the nearest EV fast charger is a 40-mi run (and back).
Not within 60 mi: Propane. Plan those before you head up.
One dot per need — the nearest of each kind, straight-line from camp. Places from OpenStreetMap (© OpenStreetMap contributors); the EV fast charger from the US DOE station locator. Open in Google Maps ↗
The site — Crazies 8911-200
Access
Drive-up
Land
U.S. Forest Service · dispersed
Ground slope
19.2% · steep
State
MT
Coordinates
46.29133, -110.47597
Cost
Free
Nearby & resupply — around Crazies 8911-200 · Helena-Lewis and Clark National Forest · MT (OpenStreetMap)
- Water featureForty Creek · under 0.1 mi · USGS: perennial stream
- Nearest townLebo · ~5.2 mi
- Rail & highwaynone mapped within 10 mi
- Drinking waternone within 10 mi
- FuelFuel · ~27.0 mi
- Propane / LPGnone within 31 mi
- GroceriesMathis Food Farm · ~26.9 mi
- PharmacyCastle Mountain Drug · ~27.0 mi
- Hospital / clinicMountainview Medical Center · ~27.0 mi
EV charging — from Crazies 8911-200 · Helena-Lewis and Clark National Forest · MT — nearest public DC fast & Level 2 (US DOE station data)
- Nearest public DC fast charger40.5 mi straight-line SE — Big Timber, MT - Tesla Supercharger (at a gas station) · Tesla · NACS (Tesla) · 4 fast ports listed · listed open, last confirmed by AFDC 2026-06-18 · hours: 24 hours daily. Open to Teslas only. · directions
- Public DC fast stations within reachnone within 25 mi · 7 within 50 · 23 within 100 · 31 within 150
- Nearest listing CCS49.1 mi — Kendall Ford of Bozeman, Bozeman
- Nearest listing CHAdeMO49.6 mi — Audi of Bozeman, Bozeman
- Nearest public Level 2 (J1772)43.8 mi — LEWIS STREET STATION 1, Livingston, MT · ChargePoint Network · J1772 · 2 Level 2 ports listed · listed open, last confirmed by AFDC 2026-09-16 · hours: 24 hours daily
- Pricing at the fast chargernot listed
- Power (kW)not listed by AFDC — “DC fast” spans roughly 24 to 350 kW, so ask the network.
- Read this honestlyStraight-line miles, like every distance on this site. Roads run longer than this, and you have to get back. We know where a charger is listed. We don’t know if it works today, how fast it is, or the road miles. Check the network before you commit.
Snapshot 2026-09-16 · AFDC record 102260 · US DOE Alternative Fuels Data Center
Nearby restrooms — around Crazies 8911-200 · Helena-Lewis and Clark National Forest · MT — pit toilets, restrooms & rest areas (government data)
- Vault / pit toiletForest Lake Cg · ~3.7 mi SE · USFS
- Vault / pit toiletCrandall Cabin · ~8.0 mi SE · USFS
- Vault / pit toiletShields River · ~8.1 mi SE · USFS
- Vault / pit toiletPorcupine Cabin · ~12.3 mi S · USFS
Coming out here — Crazies 8911-200 · Helena-Lewis and Clark National Forest · MT
- Surface water mapped nearby: USGS maps Forty Creek as a perennial stream, under 0.1 mi from the pin (National Hydrography Dataset, data refreshed October 2022). Mapped as perennial is not the same as flowing today. Nobody has checked it for you. Filter or boil anything you drink.
- Ground slope around the pin: about 19.2% — steep. Measured on USGS's 3DEP elevation model (1 m data here), sampled every 10 metres around the point. That is the hillside, not the ground under your wheels — a graded pullout or a bench a few metres across is too small to show up at that spacing, and nobody has checked this one for you.
- No rail line and no interstate or US route is mapped within 10 mi of the pin. Checked against the FRA/BTS North American Rail Network (data updated Jul 21, 2026) and the Census's TIGER/Line primary roads (TIGER/Line 2025, released Oct 2025). Both are national files and both are maps of what is built, not counts of what moves on it.
- Assume no services at all. Most dispersed camping in a national forest has none: no tap, no power, no dump, often no toilet. Everything you need, you bring.
- Power: Dave carries his own — batteries or solar. A generator will run your rig and it is also the thing everybody camped near you can hear.
- Getting online: Dave recommends Starlink. He has had it since SpaceX introduced it, used it for four years living on the road, and it delivers as promised — several hundred nights out, and he can count on one hand the places he could not connect. The cable on his unit runs 150 feet, which is usually all it takes to find enough sky. Starlink → Referral link — Starlink pays Dave $100 in cash if you sign up through it, and that money funds this site and the next trip. It costs you nothing and does not change the recommendation.
Open Crazies 8911-200 elsewhere
Other camps near Crazies 8911-200
If this one is full, gated or washed out.
- Crazies 8911-202~0.1 mi
- Crazies 8911-203~0.4 mi
- Forty Fork Crk Rd 8918-206~0.6 mi
- Forest Lake Cg~3.7 mi
The unit that manages Crazies 8911-200
Stay limits, road closures and fire restrictions at Crazies 8911-200 are set by Helena-Lewis and Clark National Forest, not by the campsite — check there before you go.
Snow, and when this opens
The nearest automatic snow station is Porcupine at 6,480 ft, about 12 miles away. We do not repeat a depth here, because any number we stored would be stale by the time you read it — the station publishes today's.
How we know this — Crazies 8911-200
Source
U.S. Forest Service recreation data
Confidence
Likely — The record is good enough to put a pin on, but thin in places. Treat the details as a starting point, not gospel.
How it was placed
USFS/BLM authoritative: free & dispersed. Access not field-checked (assumed drive-up).
Nearest MVUM road
US Forest Service Motor Vehicle Use Map roads layer (EDW_MVUM_01, layer 1), Clearinghouse refresh Aug 30, 2026. Straight-line distance from the pin to the nearest mapped segment within 1 mi; surface type, maintenance level and open dates are the agency's own values for that segment, expanded from its codes and otherwise unedited. Nothing here says which road reaches the site.
EV chargers
US DOE Alternative Fuels Data Center station locator, snapshot 2026-09-16. Straight-line miles to the nearest public, open, unrestricted station; restricted and planned units are shown but never counted.
Field check
On the agency's books. The land manager inventoried this site, so its existence is not in question — current conditions are. Nobody from here has camped it recently.
What we don’t know about Crazies 8911-200
A land record can put you within a few meters of a spot. It cannot tell you any of this — so check it yourself, and treat anything below as the open question it is.
- Whether that MVUM road is the way in, and the last stretch beyond it
- Whether the site itself closes on its own schedule — only the road's season is on record
- How many rigs actually fit
- Cell coverage by carrier
- Current fire restrictions
- Whether any water here is drinkable
- Shade & wind exposure
- Noise and who else shows up
- Whether a listed EV charger works today, or the road miles to it
Before you go — Crazies 8911-200
Water on public land →What “dispersed” means here →Forest road numbers →How to read this page →All field notes →