Agency-listedUSFSFreeRoad season: open (MVUM)
Father And Sons Cg
Drive-up · U.S. Forest Service · ID · 42.16281, -114.18573
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Ask about this camp →U.S. Forest Service lists this site. On most of their ground you can camp away from developed sites pretty much anywhere — so treat this as a known-good spot, not the only one allowed. The unit sets stay limits and how far off road and water you must be. What changes is conditions — roads, gates, closures, fire rules. Check those with the unit before you commit to the drive.
Nearest road on the Forest Service MVUM — Father And Sons Cg · Sawtooth National Forest · ID
The nearest road on the Forest Service MVUM is FR 70674 (Father And Son C G), 150 ft from the pin. The MVUM lists it as native material surface and maintenance level 3 – suitable for passenger cars.
Road season: open (MVUM) The MVUM lists FR 70674 (Father And Son C G), 150 ft from the pin, open to passenger vehicles year-round.
MVUM record for FR 70674 (Father And Son C G): “01/01-12/31” Read against the calendar on 2026-09-22; with JavaScript your browser re-checks it against today.
From the Forest Service's own Motor Vehicle Use Map roads layer (EDW, Clearinghouse refresh Aug 30, 2026), straight-line from the pin to the nearest mapped segment. The nearest segment is not necessarily the way in, a maintenance level is the agency's class and not a report on today, and a road's season is the road's — it is not a campground order. What the levels mean → What an MVUM is →
USGS topo — contours & terrain
Aerial — USGS / NAIP
Weather outlook — at Father And Sons Cg
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Live NWS area forecast (~2.5 km grid, not elevation-corrected). Camp sits at 7,283 ft.
Fire & smoke — around Father And Sons CgNIFC · AirNow
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Active wildfires from NIFC (within ~50 mi); air quality from AirNow. Always confirm current fire restrictions with the managing office before you go.
Everything you need — measured from Father And Sons Cg · Sawtooth National Forest · ID
▲ your camp. Rings are 15, 30 and 60 straight-line miles; bearings are approximate and roads run longer.
Nearest of each
- FFuel21 mi
- GGrocery21 mi
- WWater24 mi
- @Mail28 mi
- ShShower28 mi
- DDump29 mi
- OOutfitter29 mi
- MMechanic30 mi
- HHardware30 mi
- +Urgent care31 mi
- RxPharmacy31 mi
- EVEV fast charger33 mi
- LLaundry41 mi
≤30 mi30–4545+water
The read: water is a real 24-mi drive, fuel & food sit about 21 mi out, the nearest EV fast charger is a 33-mi run (and back).
Not within 60 mi: Propane. Plan those before you head up.
One dot per need — the nearest of each kind, straight-line from camp. Places from OpenStreetMap (© OpenStreetMap contributors); the EV fast charger from the US DOE station locator. Open in Google Maps ↗
The site — Father And Sons Cg
Access
Drive-up
Land
U.S. Forest Service
Elevation
7,283 ft
Ground slope
7.9% · gentle
State
ID
Coordinates
42.16281, -114.18573
Cost
Free
Nearby & resupply — around Father And Sons Cg · Sawtooth National Forest · ID (OpenStreetMap)
- Water featureBig Cottonwood Creek · ~0.1 mi · USGS: perennial stream
- Nearest townOakley · ~16.5 mi
- Rail & highwaynone mapped within 10 mi
- Drinking waternone within 10 mi
- FuelChevron · ~23.9 mi
- Propane / LPGnone within 31 mi
- Dump station~28.7 mi
- GroceriesRogerson Service · ~21.2 mi
- Hospital / clinicVA Clinic · ~30.7 mi
- HardwareGrover's Pay and Pack · ~29.6 mi
EV charging — from Father And Sons Cg · Sawtooth National Forest · ID — nearest public DC fast & Level 2 (US DOE station data)
- Nearest public DC fast charger32.7 mi straight-line NW — L172 PL1 TWIN FALLS · ChargePoint Network · CCS · 2 fast ports listed · listed open, last confirmed by AFDC 2026-09-16 · hours: 24 hours daily · directions
- Public DC fast stations within reachnone within 25 mi · 10 within 50 · 21 within 100 · 91 within 150
- Nearest listing NACS (Tesla)33.1 mi — Twin Falls, ID - Tesla Supercharger, Twin Falls
- Nearest listing CHAdeMO32.9 mi — VOLVO CAR USA TWIN FALLS DC1, Twin Falls
- Nearest public Level 2 (J1772)23.8 mi — Buster's Restaurant & Saloon and RV Park - Tesla Destination, Hollister, ID (at a restaurant) · Tesla Destination · J1772, NACS (Tesla) · 4 Level 2 ports listed · listed open, last confirmed by AFDC 2026-08-27 · hours: 24 hours daily. Open to all vehicles.
- Pricing at the fast chargernot listed
- Power (kW)not listed by AFDC — “DC fast” spans roughly 24 to 350 kW, so ask the network.
- Read this honestlyStraight-line miles, like every distance on this site. Roads run longer than this, and you have to get back. We know where a charger is listed. We don’t know if it works today, how fast it is, or the road miles. Check the network before you commit.
Snapshot 2026-09-16 · AFDC record 434725 · US DOE Alternative Fuels Data Center
Nearby restrooms — around Father And Sons Cg · Sawtooth National Forest · ID — pit toilets, restrooms & rest areas (government data)
- Vault / pit toiletFather And Sons Cg · at this camp · USFS
- Vault / pit toiletPorcupine Springs Cg · ~3.8 mi W · USFS
- Vault / pit toiletPorcupine Trailhead · ~3.9 mi W · USFS
- Vault / pit toiletPorcupine Springs Family Campground Loop D · ~3.9 mi W · USFS
Coming out here — Father And Sons Cg · Sawtooth National Forest · ID
- Surface water mapped nearby: USGS maps Big Cottonwood Creek as a perennial stream, ~0.1 mi from the pin (National Hydrography Dataset, data refreshed October 2022). Mapped as perennial is not the same as flowing today. Nobody has checked it for you. Filter or boil anything you drink.
- Ground slope around the pin: about 7.9% — gentle. Measured on USGS's 3DEP elevation model (1 m data here), sampled every 10 metres around the point. That is the hillside, not the ground under your wheels — a graded pullout or a bench a few metres across is too small to show up at that spacing, and nobody has checked this one for you.
- No rail line and no interstate or US route is mapped within 10 mi of the pin. Checked against the FRA/BTS North American Rail Network (data updated Jul 21, 2026) and the Census's TIGER/Line primary roads (TIGER/Line 2025, released Oct 2025). Both are national files and both are maps of what is built, not counts of what moves on it.
- Power: Dave carries his own — batteries or solar. A generator will run your rig and it is also the thing everybody camped near you can hear.
- Getting online: Dave recommends Starlink. He has had it since SpaceX introduced it, used it for four years living on the road, and it delivers as promised — several hundred nights out, and he can count on one hand the places he could not connect. The cable on his unit runs 150 feet, which is usually all it takes to find enough sky. Starlink → Referral link — Starlink pays Dave $100 in cash if you sign up through it, and that money funds this site and the next trip. It costs you nothing and does not change the recommendation.
Open Father And Sons Cg elsewhere
Other camps near Father And Sons Cg
If this one is full, gated or washed out.
- Bostetter Cg~0.8 mi
- Porcupine Springs Cg~3.8 mi · fee
- Porcupine Springs Family Campground Loop D~3.9 mi · fee
- Diamondfield Jack Cg~4.7 mi · fee
The unit that manages Father And Sons Cg
Stay limits, road closures and fire restrictions at Father And Sons Cg are set by Sawtooth National Forest, not by the campsite — check there before you go.
Snow, and when this opens
The nearest automatic snow station is Bostetter R.S. at 7,530 ft, less than a mile away. That is about the height of this camp, so it is a fair proxy. We do not repeat a depth here, because any number we stored would be stale by the time you read it — the station publishes today's.
How we know this — Father And Sons Cg
Source
U.S. Forest Service recreation data
Confidence
Likely — The record is good enough to put a pin on, but thin in places. Treat the details as a starting point, not gospel.
How it was placed
Free but developed (not dispersed) - review || Water: Sawtooth National Forest's own site page for Father and Sons Campground, https://www.fs.usda.gov/r04/sawtooth/recreation/father-and-sons-campground (read 2026-08-24; page "Last updated" March 2, 2026), "Facility and Amenity Information > Water": "Potable water is not available at this site.". Corroborated by the USFS EDW Recreation Sites layer (apps.fs.usda.gov/arcx/rest/services/EDW/EDW_RecInfraRecreationSites_02/MapServer/0, re-queried live 2026-08-24 for SITE_ID 07848 / MANAGING_ORG 041401), WATER_AVAILABILITY = "No drinking water is available". No natural water anywhere near this site is claimed to be potable. Agency record only -- not field-verified. Nightshift fire 1680 (Idaho batch 2).
Nearest MVUM road
US Forest Service Motor Vehicle Use Map roads layer (EDW_MVUM_01, layer 1), Clearinghouse refresh Aug 30, 2026. Straight-line distance from the pin to the nearest mapped segment within 1 mi; surface type, maintenance level and open dates are the agency's own values for that segment, expanded from its codes and otherwise unedited. Nothing here says which road reaches the site.
EV chargers
US DOE Alternative Fuels Data Center station locator, snapshot 2026-09-16. Straight-line miles to the nearest public, open, unrestricted station; restricted and planned units are shown but never counted.
Field check
On the agency's books. The land manager inventoried this site, so its existence is not in question — current conditions are. Nobody from here has camped it recently.
What we don’t know about Father And Sons Cg
A land record can put you within a few meters of a spot. It cannot tell you any of this — so check it yourself, and treat anything below as the open question it is.
- Whether that MVUM road is the way in, and the last stretch beyond it
- Whether the site itself closes on its own schedule — only the road's season is on record
- How many rigs actually fit
- Cell coverage by carrier
- Current fire restrictions
- Whether any water here is drinkable
- Shade & wind exposure
- Noise and who else shows up
- Whether a listed EV charger works today, or the road miles to it
Before you go — Father And Sons Cg
Winter vs summer roads →Water on public land →What “dispersed” means here →Off-grid communication →All field notes →