Agency-listedUSFS · dispersedFreeRoad season: open (MVUM)
Forest Rd 4409F
Drive-up · U.S. Forest Service · MT · 45.64199, -106.02782
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Ask about this camp →U.S. Forest Service lists this site. On most of their ground you can camp away from developed sites pretty much anywhere — so treat this as a known-good spot, not the only one allowed. The unit sets stay limits and how far off road and water you must be. What changes is conditions — roads, gates, closures, fire rules. Check those with the unit before you commit to the drive.
Nearest road on the Forest Service MVUM — Forest Rd 4409F · Custer Gallatin National Forest · MT
The nearest road on the Forest Service MVUM is FR 4409 (Cook Mt Divide), 80 ft from the pin. The MVUM lists it as native material surface and maintenance level 2 – high-clearance vehicles.
Road season: open (MVUM) The MVUM lists FR 4409 (Cook Mt Divide), 80 ft from the pin, open to passenger vehicles year-round.
MVUM record for FR 4409 (Cook Mt Divide): “yearlong” Read against the calendar on 2026-09-27; with JavaScript your browser re-checks it against today.
From the Forest Service's own Motor Vehicle Use Map roads layer (EDW, Clearinghouse refresh Aug 30, 2026), straight-line from the pin to the nearest mapped segment. The nearest segment is not necessarily the way in, a maintenance level is the agency's class and not a report on today, and a road's season is the road's — it is not a campground order. What the levels mean → What an MVUM is →
USGS topo — contours & terrain
Aerial — USGS / NAIP
Weather outlook — at Forest Rd 4409F
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Live NWS area forecast (~2.5 km grid, not elevation-corrected). Camp sits at 4,042 ft.
Fire & smoke — around Forest Rd 4409FNIFC · AirNow
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Active wildfires from NIFC (within ~50 mi); air quality from AirNow. Always confirm current fire restrictions with the managing office before you go.
Everything you need — measured from Forest Rd 4409F · Custer Gallatin National Forest · MT
▲ your camp. Rings are 15, 30 and 60 straight-line miles; bearings are approximate and roads run longer.
Nearest of each
- GGrocery12 mi
- HHardware12 mi
- @Mail12 mi
- +Urgent care12 mi
- FFuel12 mi
- MMechanic52 mi
- EVEV fast charger53 mi
- LLaundry53 mi
- RxPharmacy53 mi
≤30 mi30–4545+water
The read: fuel & food sit about 12 mi out, the nearest EV fast charger is a 53-mi run (and back).
Not within 60 mi: Water, Dump, Propane. Plan those before you head up.
One dot per need — the nearest of each kind, straight-line from camp. Places from OpenStreetMap (© OpenStreetMap contributors); the EV fast charger from the US DOE station locator. Open in Google Maps ↗
The site — Forest Rd 4409F
Access
Drive-up
Land
U.S. Forest Service · dispersed
Elevation
4,042 ft
Ground slope
5.7% · gentle
State
MT
Coordinates
45.64199, -106.02782
Cost
Free
Nearby & resupply — around Forest Rd 4409F · Custer Gallatin National Forest · MT (OpenStreetMap)
- Water featureMaxwell Creek · ~0.4 mi · USGS: intermittent stream
- Also mapped (OSM)East Fork Otter Creek (stream) · mapped within 1.6 mi
- Nearest townStacey · ~8.5 mi
- Rail & highwaynone mapped within 10 mi
- Drinking waternone within 10 mi
- Fuelnone within 30 mi
- Propane / LPGnone within 31 mi
- Groceriesnone within 30 mi
- Mapping is thin out hereAn empty row means nothing is mapped within that radius — not that nothing exists. Small stores, seasonal resorts and single fuel pumps out here often never make it onto the map. Treat these as unconfirmed and ask locally.
EV charging — from Forest Rd 4409F · Custer Gallatin National Forest · MT — nearest public DC fast & Level 2 (US DOE station data)
- Nearest public DC fast charger52.7 mi straight-line N — Miles City, MT - Tesla Supercharger (at a gas station) · Tesla · NACS (Tesla) · 8 fast ports listed · listed open, last confirmed by AFDC 2026-06-18 · hours: 24 hours daily. NACS partner enabled. · directions
- Public DC fast stations within reachnone within 25 mi · none within 50 · 8 within 100 · 19 within 150
- Nearest listing CCS53.1 mi — Town Pump Miles City (Miles City, MT), Miles City
- Nearest listing CHAdeMO72.2 mi — SHERIDAN MOTORS CPE250, Sheridan
- Nearest public Level 2 (J1772)72.2 mi — SHERIDAN MOTORS CT4000 · ChargePoint Network · J1772 · 2 Level 2 ports listed · listed open, last confirmed by AFDC 2026-09-16 · hours: 24 hours daily
- Also listed, not counted aboveLevel 2, restricted access — Broadus Motels, Broadus, 32.9 mi · NACS (Tesla) · hours: 24 hours daily; for guest use only; see front desk for access
- Pricing at the fast chargernot listed
- Power (kW)not listed by AFDC — “DC fast” spans roughly 24 to 350 kW, so ask the network.
- Read this honestlyStraight-line miles, like every distance on this site. Roads run longer than this, and you have to get back. We know where a charger is listed. We don’t know if it works today, how fast it is, or the road miles. Check the network before you commit.
Snapshot 2026-09-16 · AFDC record 163531 · US DOE Alternative Fuels Data Center
Nearby restrooms — around Forest Rd 4409F · Custer Gallatin National Forest · MT — pit toilets, restrooms & rest areas (government data)
- Vault / pit toiletWhite Tail Cabin · ~2.5 mi E · USFS
- Vault / pit toiletRed Shale · ~7.6 mi SW · USFS
- Vault / pit toiletBlacks Pond · ~23.9 mi SW · USFS
- RestroomCow Creek · ~25.2 mi SW · USFS
Coming out here — Forest Rd 4409F · Custer Gallatin National Forest · MT
- Surface water mapped nearby: USGS maps Maxwell Creek as an intermittent stream, ~0.4 mi from the pin (National Hydrography Dataset, data refreshed October 2022). Mapped as intermittent — expect it dry for part of the year. Nobody has checked it for you. Filter or boil anything you drink.
- Ground slope around the pin: about 5.7% — gentle. Measured on USGS's 3DEP elevation model (1 m data here), sampled every 10 metres around the point. That is the hillside, not the ground under your wheels — a graded pullout or a bench a few metres across is too small to show up at that spacing, and nobody has checked this one for you.
- The game's day in this forest These lines are for the whole Custer Gallatin National Forest, not for this camp's own spot: a fire restriction is posted by county, and a forecast is for one point in the forest. A camp's own night can differ from that point, most in the mountains. Read when this page loads from the same daily files the game uses; every line says where it came from and when it was read.
- This camp's own spot: sun and fire record Worked out for this camp's recorded point from federal records, not for the whole forest. Every line says where it came from and when.
Fire history: Inside the 2012 Ash Creek fire perimeter (249,713 acres), by the national fire history record. Inside the 1988 Schiller fire perimeter (17,197 acres), by the national fire history record. (NIFC InterAgency Fire Perimeter History, read October 15, 2026. This says where the record draws the line at this camp's recorded point, not what the ground here is like.)
- No rail line and no interstate or US route is mapped within 10 mi of the pin. Checked against the FRA/BTS North American Rail Network (data updated Jul 21, 2026) and the Census's TIGER/Line primary roads (TIGER/Line 2025, released Oct 2025). Both are national files and both are maps of what is built, not counts of what moves on it.
- Assume no services at all. Most dispersed camping in a national forest has none: no tap, no power, no dump, often no toilet. Everything you need, you bring.
- Power: Dave carries his own — batteries or solar. A generator will run your rig and it is also the thing everybody camped near you can hear.
- Getting online: Dave recommends Starlink. He has had it since SpaceX introduced it, used it for four years living on the road, and it delivers as promised — several hundred nights out, and he can count on one hand the places he could not connect. The cable on his unit runs 150 feet, which is usually all it takes to find enough sky. Starlink → Referral link — Starlink pays Dave $100 in cash if you sign up through it, and that money funds this site and the next trip. It costs you nothing and does not change the recommendation.
Open Forest Rd 4409F elsewhere
Other camps near Forest Rd 4409F
If this one is full, gated or washed out.
- Forest Rd 4409E~0.2 mi
- Forest Rd 4409G~0.4 mi
- Forest Rd 4409C~1.4 mi
- Forest Rd 4409B~1.6 mi
The unit that manages Forest Rd 4409F
Stay limits, road closures and fire restrictions at Forest Rd 4409F are set by Custer Gallatin National Forest, not by the campsite — check there before you go.
How we know this — Forest Rd 4409F
Source
U.S. Forest Service recreation data
Confidence
Likely — The record is good enough to put a pin on, but thin in places. Treat the details as a starting point, not gospel.
How it was placed
USFS/BLM authoritative: free & dispersed. Access not field-checked (assumed drive-up).
Nearest MVUM road
US Forest Service Motor Vehicle Use Map roads layer (EDW_MVUM_01, layer 1), Clearinghouse refresh Aug 30, 2026. Straight-line distance from the pin to the nearest mapped segment within 1 mi; surface type, maintenance level and open dates are the agency's own values for that segment, expanded from its codes and otherwise unedited. Nothing here says which road reaches the site.
EV chargers
US DOE Alternative Fuels Data Center station locator, snapshot 2026-09-16. Straight-line miles to the nearest public, open, unrestricted station; restricted and planned units are shown but never counted.
Field check
On the agency's books. The land manager inventoried this site, so its existence is not in question — current conditions are. Nobody from here has camped it recently.
What we don’t know about Forest Rd 4409F
A land record can put you within a few meters of a spot. It cannot tell you any of this — so check it yourself, and treat anything below as the open question it is.
- Whether that MVUM road is the way in, and the last stretch beyond it
- Whether the site itself closes on its own schedule — only the road's season is on record
- How many rigs actually fit
- Cell coverage by carrier
- Current fire restrictions
- Whether any water here is drinkable
- Shade & wind exposure
- Noise and who else shows up
- Whether a listed EV charger works today, or the road miles to it
Before you go — Forest Rd 4409F
Finding water out here →What “dispersed” means here →Forest road numbers →Reading your camp page →All field notes →