Agency-listedUSFSFreeRoad season: open (MVUM)
Indian Flats Group Camp (Closed)
Drive-up · U.S. Forest Service · CA · 33.34911, -116.65861
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Ask about this camp →U.S. Forest Service lists this site. On most of their ground you can camp away from developed sites pretty much anywhere — so treat this as a known-good spot, not the only one allowed. The unit sets stay limits and how far off road and water you must be. What changes is conditions — roads, gates, closures, fire rules. Check those with the unit before you commit to the drive.
Nearest road on the Forest Service MVUM — Indian Flats Group Camp (Closed) · Cleveland National Forest · CA
The nearest road on the Forest Service MVUM is FR 9S05B (Indian Flat Cg B), 170 ft from the pin. The MVUM lists it as bituminous surface treatment surface and maintenance level 4 – moderate degree of user comfort.
Road season: open (MVUM) The MVUM lists FR 9S05B (Indian Flat Cg B), 170 ft from the pin, open to passenger vehicles year-round.
MVUM record for FR 9S05B (Indian Flat Cg B): “01/01-12/31” Read against the calendar on 2026-09-22; with JavaScript your browser re-checks it against today.
From the Forest Service's own Motor Vehicle Use Map roads layer (EDW, Clearinghouse refresh Aug 30, 2026), straight-line from the pin to the nearest mapped segment. The nearest segment is not necessarily the way in, a maintenance level is the agency's class and not a report on today, and a road's season is the road's — it is not a campground order. What the levels mean → What an MVUM is →
USGS topo — contours & terrain
Aerial — USGS / NAIP
Weather outlook — at Indian Flats Group Camp (Closed)
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Live NWS area forecast (~2.5 km grid, not elevation-corrected). Camp sits at 3,629 ft.
Fire & smoke — around Indian Flats Group Camp (Closed)NIFC · AirNow
Checking active fires & air quality…
Active wildfires from NIFC (within ~50 mi); air quality from AirNow. Always confirm current fire restrictions with the managing office before you go.
Everything you need — measured from Indian Flats Group Camp (Closed) · Cleveland National Forest · CA
▲ your camp. Rings are 15, 30 and 60 straight-line miles; bearings are approximate and roads run longer.
Nearest of each
- FFuel5 mi
- GGrocery5 mi
- @Mail5 mi
- WWater8 mi
- LLaundry10 mi
- EVEV fast charger12 mi
- ShShower13 mi
- +Urgent care16 mi
- RxPharmacy17 mi
- OOutfitter17 mi
- HHardware18 mi
- MMechanic18 mi
- AAir-up25 mi
- PPropane27 mi
- DDump27 mi
≤30 mi30–4545+water
The read: water's a short hop out, fuel & food sit about 5 mi out.
One dot per need — the nearest of each kind, straight-line from camp. Places from OpenStreetMap (© OpenStreetMap contributors); the EV fast charger from the US DOE station locator. Open in Google Maps ↗
The site — Indian Flats Group Camp (Closed)
Access
Drive-up
Land
U.S. Forest Service
Elevation
3,629 ft
Ground slope
4.9% · gentle
State
CA
Coordinates
33.34911, -116.65861
Cost
Free
Nearby & resupply — around Indian Flats Group Camp (Closed) · Cleveland National Forest · CA (OpenStreetMap)
- Water featureSan Luis Rey River · ~0.4 mi · USGS: perennial river
- Nearest townAguanga · ~13.4 mi
- Rail & highwaynone mapped within 10 mi
- Drinking waterWater · ~7.9 mi
- FuelFuel · ~4.7 mi
- Propane / LPGPechanga Gas Station · ~26.6 mi
- Dump station~27.3 mi
- Groceriessunshine summit market and gas · ~4.7 mi
- PharmacyPharmacy · ~17.3 mi
- Hospital / clinicHospital · ~16.4 mi
- HardwareTrue Value · ~17.8 mi
EV charging — from Indian Flats Group Camp (Closed) · Cleveland National Forest · CA — nearest public DC fast & Level 2 (US DOE station data)
- Nearest public DC fast charger12.5 mi straight-line SW — La Jolla Tribal Hall, Pauma Valley, CA · CHARGELAB · J1772, CCS · 4 fast ports listed · listed open, last confirmed by AFDC 2026-09-16 · hours: not listed · directions
- Public DC fast stations within reach13 within 25 mi · 239 within 50 · 879 within 100 · 1226 within 150
- Nearest listing NACS (Tesla)16.6 mi — Santa Ysabel, CA - Tesla Supercharger, Santa Ysabel
- Nearest listing CHAdeMO14.1 mi — MSTC EV CHARGER CHARGEPOINT 2, Anza
- Nearest public Level 2 (J1772)10.0 mi — MIRACOSTA EV EV 4C -2, Oceanside, CA · ChargePoint Network · J1772 · 2 Level 2 ports listed · listed open, last confirmed by AFDC 2026-09-16 · hours: 24 hours daily
- Pricing at the fast chargernot listed
- Power (kW)not listed by AFDC — “DC fast” spans roughly 24 to 350 kW, so ask the network.
- Read this honestlyStraight-line miles, like every distance on this site. Roads run longer than this, and you have to get back. We know where a charger is listed. We don’t know if it works today, how fast it is, or the road miles. Check the network before you commit.
Snapshot 2026-09-16 · AFDC record 455670 · US DOE Alternative Fuels Data Center
Nearby restrooms — around Indian Flats Group Camp (Closed) · Cleveland National Forest · CA — pit toilets, restrooms & rest areas (government data)
- Vault / pit toiletAtaxam Ma'Mta'Ash Campground · at this camp · USFS
- Vault / pit toiletOak Grove Campground · ~8.0 mi W · USFS
- RestroomHenshaw Scenic Vista · ~8.8 mi SW · USFS
- Vault / pit toiletSan Luis Rey Picnic Area · ~10.2 mi SW · USFS
Coming out here — Indian Flats Group Camp (Closed) · Cleveland National Forest · CA
- Surface water mapped nearby: USGS maps San Luis Rey River as a perennial river, ~0.4 mi from the pin (National Hydrography Dataset, data refreshed October 2022). Mapped as perennial is not the same as flowing today. Nobody has checked it for you. Filter or boil anything you drink.
- Ground slope around the pin: about 4.9% — gentle. Measured on USGS's 3DEP elevation model (1 m data here), sampled every 10 metres around the point. That is the hillside, not the ground under your wheels — a graded pullout or a bench a few metres across is too small to show up at that spacing, and nobody has checked this one for you.
- No rail line and no interstate or US route is mapped within 10 mi of the pin. Checked against the FRA/BTS North American Rail Network (data updated Jul 21, 2026) and the Census's TIGER/Line primary roads (TIGER/Line 2025, released Oct 2025). Both are national files and both are maps of what is built, not counts of what moves on it.
- Power: Dave carries his own — batteries or solar. A generator will run your rig and it is also the thing everybody camped near you can hear.
- Getting online: Dave recommends Starlink. He has had it since SpaceX introduced it, used it for four years living on the road, and it delivers as promised — several hundred nights out, and he can count on one hand the places he could not connect. The cable on his unit runs 150 feet, which is usually all it takes to find enough sky. Starlink → Referral link — Starlink pays Dave $100 in cash if you sign up through it, and that money funds this site and the next trip. It costs you nothing and does not change the recommendation.
Open Indian Flats Group Camp (Closed) elsewhere
Other camps near Indian Flats Group Camp (Closed)
If this one is full, gated or washed out.
- Beauty Mountain Wilderness~7.5 mi
- Oak Grove Campground~8.0 mi · fee
- Crestline Group Campground~12.0 mi
- Observatory Campground~12.6 mi · fee
The unit that manages Indian Flats Group Camp (Closed)
Stay limits, road closures and fire restrictions at Indian Flats Group Camp (Closed) are set by Cleveland National Forest, not by the campsite — check there before you go.
How we know this — Indian Flats Group Camp (Closed)
Source
U.S. Forest Service recreation data
Confidence
Likely — The record is good enough to put a pin on, but thin in places. Treat the details as a starting point, not gospel.
How it was placed
Free but developed (not dispersed) - review
Nearest MVUM road
US Forest Service Motor Vehicle Use Map roads layer (EDW_MVUM_01, layer 1), Clearinghouse refresh Aug 30, 2026. Straight-line distance from the pin to the nearest mapped segment within 1 mi; surface type, maintenance level and open dates are the agency's own values for that segment, expanded from its codes and otherwise unedited. Nothing here says which road reaches the site.
EV chargers
US DOE Alternative Fuels Data Center station locator, snapshot 2026-09-16. Straight-line miles to the nearest public, open, unrestricted station; restricted and planned units are shown but never counted.
Field check
On the agency's books. The land manager inventoried this site, so its existence is not in question — current conditions are. Nobody from here has camped it recently.
What we don’t know about Indian Flats Group Camp (Closed)
A land record can put you within a few meters of a spot. It cannot tell you any of this — so check it yourself, and treat anything below as the open question it is.
- Whether that MVUM road is the way in, and the last stretch beyond it
- Whether the site itself closes on its own schedule — only the road's season is on record
- How many rigs actually fit
- Cell coverage by carrier
- Current fire restrictions
- Whether any water here is drinkable
- Shade & wind exposure
- Noise and who else shows up
- Whether a listed EV charger works today, or the road miles to it
Before you go — Indian Flats Group Camp (Closed)
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