Agency-listedUSFS · dispersedFree
Johnnys Rd 621 001
Drive-up · U.S. Forest Service · MT · 46.21939, -111.76136
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Ask about this camp →U.S. Forest Service lists this site. On most of their ground you can camp away from developed sites pretty much anywhere — so treat this as a known-good spot, not the only one allowed. The unit sets stay limits and how far off road and water you must be. What changes is conditions — roads, gates, closures, fire rules. Check those with the unit before you commit to the drive.
Nearest road on the Forest Service MVUM — Johnnys Rd 621 001 · Helena-Lewis and Clark National Forest · MT
No MVUM road within a quarter mile of the pin; the nearest mapped segment is FR 621 (Norris Gulch), 0.4 mi away. Access may be a county road or unmapped.
From the Forest Service's own Motor Vehicle Use Map roads layer (EDW, Clearinghouse refresh Aug 30, 2026), straight-line from the pin to the nearest mapped segment. The nearest segment is not necessarily the way in, a maintenance level is the agency's class and not a report on today, and a road's season is the road's — it is not a campground order. What the levels mean → What an MVUM is →
USGS topo — contours & terrain
Aerial — USGS / NAIP
Weather outlook — at Johnnys Rd 621 001
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Live NWS area forecast (~2.5 km grid, not elevation-corrected). Camp sits at 6,132 ft.
Fire & smoke — around Johnnys Rd 621 001NIFC · AirNow
Checking active fires & air quality…
Active wildfires from NIFC (within ~50 mi); air quality from AirNow. Always confirm current fire restrictions with the managing office before you go.
Everything you need — measured from Johnnys Rd 621 001 · Helena-Lewis and Clark National Forest · MT
▲ your camp. Rings are 15, 30 and 60 straight-line miles; bearings are approximate and roads run longer.
Nearest of each
- FFuel13 mi
- GGrocery13 mi
- @Mail13 mi
- HHardware14 mi
- DDump24 mi
- ShShower24 mi
- MMechanic25 mi
- +Urgent care26 mi
- RxPharmacy27 mi
- LLaundry28 mi
- WWater29 mi
- OOutfitter29 mi
- EVEV fast charger29 mi
- AAir-up39 mi
≤30 mi30–4545+water
The read: water is a real 29-mi drive, fuel & food sit about 13 mi out.
Not within 60 mi: Propane. Plan those before you head up.
One dot per need — the nearest of each kind, straight-line from camp. Places from OpenStreetMap (© OpenStreetMap contributors); the EV fast charger from the US DOE station locator. Open in Google Maps ↗
The site — Johnnys Rd 621 001
Access
Drive-up
Land
U.S. Forest Service · dispersed
Elevation
6,132 ft
Ground slope
5.5% · gentle
State
MT
Coordinates
46.21939, -111.76136
Cost
Free
Nearby & resupply — around Johnnys Rd 621 001 · Helena-Lewis and Clark National Forest · MT (OpenStreetMap)
- Water featurenone named within 1 mi (USGS NHD)
- Nearest townRadersburg · ~6.4 mi
- Rail & highwaynone mapped within 10 mi
- Drinking waternone within 10 mi
- Fuelcenex · ~13.3 mi
- Propane / LPGnone within 31 mi
- Dump station~24.1 mi
- GroceriesBob's Supermarket · ~13.4 mi
- PharmacyBergum Drug · ~27.4 mi
- Hospital / clinicBillings Clinic Broadwater · ~13.7 mi
- HardwareHardware Hanke · ~13.5 mi
EV charging — from Johnnys Rd 621 001 · Helena-Lewis and Clark National Forest · MT — nearest public DC fast & Level 2 (US DOE station data)
- Nearest public DC fast charger29.3 mi straight-line NW — L146 DC 2, Helena, MT · ChargePoint Network · CHAdeMO, CCS · 1 fast port listed · listed open, last confirmed by AFDC 2026-09-16 · hours: 24 hours daily · directions
- Public DC fast stations within reachnone within 25 mi · 15 within 50 · 22 within 100 · 34 within 150
- Nearest listing NACS (Tesla)29.9 mi — Helena, MT - Tesla Supercharger, Helena
- Nearest public Level 2 (J1772)15.6 mi — Silos's Junction - Tesla Destination, Townsend, MT · Tesla Destination · J1772, NACS (Tesla) · 2 Level 2 ports listed · listed open, last confirmed by AFDC 2026-08-27 · hours: 24 hours daily. Open to all vehicles.
- Pricing at the fast chargernot listed
- Power (kW)not listed by AFDC — “DC fast” spans roughly 24 to 350 kW, so ask the network.
- Read this honestlyStraight-line miles, like every distance on this site. Roads run longer than this, and you have to get back. We know where a charger is listed. We don’t know if it works today, how fast it is, or the road miles. Check the network before you commit.
Snapshot 2026-09-16 · AFDC record 354437 · US DOE Alternative Fuels Data Center
Nearby restrooms — around Johnnys Rd 621 001 · Helena-Lewis and Clark National Forest · MT — pit toilets, restrooms & rest areas (government data)
- RestroomCrow Creek Toilet · ~4.7 mi NE · BLM
- RestroomRadersburg Ohv Recreation Site - Toilet · ~5.9 mi E · BLM
- Vault / pit toiletEagle Guard Station Cabin · ~6.9 mi N · USFS
- Vault / pit toiletElkhorn Picnic Area · ~10.0 mi W · USFS
Coming out here — Johnnys Rd 621 001 · Helena-Lewis and Clark National Forest · MT
- No named surface water mapped within 1 mi of the pin in USGS's National Hydrography Dataset (data refreshed October 2022), and none within about a mile and a half in our OpenStreetMap pull — which is not proof there is none, only that neither map has one. Plan to carry washing water as well as drinking water.
- Ground slope around the pin: about 5.5% — gentle. Measured on USGS's 3DEP elevation model (1 m data here), sampled every 10 metres around the point. That is the hillside, not the ground under your wheels — a graded pullout or a bench a few metres across is too small to show up at that spacing, and nobody has checked this one for you.
- No rail line and no interstate or US route is mapped within 10 mi of the pin. Checked against the FRA/BTS North American Rail Network (data updated Jul 21, 2026) and the Census's TIGER/Line primary roads (TIGER/Line 2025, released Oct 2025). Both are national files and both are maps of what is built, not counts of what moves on it.
- Assume no services at all. Most dispersed camping in a national forest has none: no tap, no power, no dump, often no toilet. Everything you need, you bring.
- Power: Dave carries his own — batteries or solar. A generator will run your rig and it is also the thing everybody camped near you can hear.
- Getting online: Dave recommends Starlink. He has had it since SpaceX introduced it, used it for four years living on the road, and it delivers as promised — several hundred nights out, and he can count on one hand the places he could not connect. The cable on his unit runs 150 feet, which is usually all it takes to find enough sky. Starlink → Referral link — Starlink pays Dave $100 in cash if you sign up through it, and that money funds this site and the next trip. It costs you nothing and does not change the recommendation.
Open Johnnys Rd 621 001 elsewhere
Other camps near Johnnys Rd 621 001
If this one is full, gated or washed out.
- Johhnys Rd 621 005~0.8 mi
- Slim Samrd 621 002~0.8 mi
- Slim Sam Rd 621 003~0.9 mi
- West Elkhorns Gfa - Johnny'S Gulch Cua~1.0 mi
The unit that manages Johnnys Rd 621 001
Stay limits, road closures and fire restrictions at Johnnys Rd 621 001 are set by Helena-Lewis and Clark National Forest, not by the campsite — check there before you go.
Snow, and when this opens
The nearest automatic snow station is Tizer Basin at 6,880 ft, about 10 miles away. It sits about 748 ft higher than this camp, so treat it as a guide rather than a reading for this spot. We do not repeat a depth here, because any number we stored would be stale by the time you read it — the station publishes today's.
How we know this — Johnnys Rd 621 001
Source
U.S. Forest Service recreation data
Confidence
Likely — The record is good enough to put a pin on, but thin in places. Treat the details as a starting point, not gospel.
How it was placed
USFS/BLM authoritative: free & dispersed. Access not field-checked (assumed drive-up).
Nearest MVUM road
US Forest Service Motor Vehicle Use Map roads layer (EDW_MVUM_01, layer 1), Clearinghouse refresh Aug 30, 2026. Straight-line distance from the pin to the nearest mapped segment within 1 mi; surface type, maintenance level and open dates are the agency's own values for that segment, expanded from its codes and otherwise unedited. Nothing here says which road reaches the site.
EV chargers
US DOE Alternative Fuels Data Center station locator, snapshot 2026-09-16. Straight-line miles to the nearest public, open, unrestricted station; restricted and planned units are shown but never counted.
Field check
On the agency's books. The land manager inventoried this site, so its existence is not in question — current conditions are. Nobody from here has camped it recently.
What we don’t know about Johnnys Rd 621 001
A land record can put you within a few meters of a spot. It cannot tell you any of this — so check it yourself, and treat anything below as the open question it is.
- Road surface & last-mile access
- How many rigs actually fit
- Cell coverage by carrier
- Seasonal & winter access
- Current fire restrictions
- Whether any water here is drinkable
- Shade & wind exposure
- Noise and who else shows up
- Whether a listed EV charger works today, or the road miles to it
Before you go — Johnnys Rd 621 001
Water on public land →What “dispersed” means here →Cold-weather camping →Gear & rig loadout →All field notes →