★ Field-verified · Dave's ownUSFS · dispersedFreeRoad season: open (MVUM)
Lincoln National Forest
Drive-up · U.S. Forest Service · Otero County, NM · 32.43551, -105.07600
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A grassy primitive camping area in sparsely vegetated section of Lincoln National Forest off of Guadelupe Rim Road. Large networks of roads and tracks to explore. Not far from ridge. Some Juniper trees. Multiple fire rings. No cell service. Exposure might be harsh in foul weather but lovely location in sunlight. Very remote and enough space for a large gathering of vehicles. Recommended.
A night on record
Dave slept here on 19 March 2019. No agency publishes a season for this site itself (the road season below is the road's), so that night is the only season evidence we have — what the site was then, not a forecast for this year.
Nearest road on the Forest Service MVUM — Lincoln National Forest · Lincoln National Forest · NM
The nearest road on the Forest Service MVUM is FR 00067 (Guadalupe Rim), 240 ft from the pin. The MVUM lists it as improved native material surface and maintenance level 3 – suitable for passenger cars.
Road season: open (MVUM) The MVUM lists FR 00067 (Guadalupe Rim), 240 ft from the pin, open to passenger vehicles year-round.
MVUM record for FR 00067 (Guadalupe Rim): “01/01-12/31” Read against the calendar on 2026-09-22; with JavaScript your browser re-checks it against today.
From the Forest Service's own Motor Vehicle Use Map roads layer (EDW, Clearinghouse refresh Aug 30, 2026), straight-line from the pin to the nearest mapped segment. The nearest segment is not necessarily the way in, a maintenance level is the agency's class and not a report on today, and a road's season is the road's — it is not a campground order. What the levels mean → What an MVUM is →
USGS topo — contours & terrain
Aerial — USGS / NAIP
Weather outlook — at Lincoln National Forest
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Live NWS area forecast (~2.5 km grid, not elevation-corrected). Camp sits at 6,548 ft.
Fire & smoke — around Lincoln National ForestNIFC · AirNow
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Active wildfires from NIFC (within ~50 mi); air quality from AirNow. Always confirm current fire restrictions with the managing office before you go.
Everything you need — measured from Lincoln National Forest · Lincoln National Forest · NM
▲ your camp. Rings are 15, 30 and 60 straight-line miles; bearings are approximate and roads run longer.
Nearest of each
- WWater26 mi
- GGrocery26 mi
- @Mail33 mi
- HHardware35 mi
- FFuel35 mi
- LLaundry37 mi
- ShShower42 mi
- DDump42 mi
- EVEV fast charger46 mi
- +Urgent care47 mi
- RxPharmacy47 mi
- MMechanic48 mi
- OOutfitter49 mi
≤30 mi30–4545+water
The read: water is a real 26-mi drive, fuel & food sit about 26 mi out, the nearest EV fast charger is a 46-mi run (and back).
Not within 60 mi: Propane. Plan those before you head up.
One dot per need — the nearest of each kind, straight-line from camp. Places from OpenStreetMap (© OpenStreetMap contributors); the EV fast charger from the US DOE station locator. Open in Google Maps ↗
The site — Lincoln National Forest
Access
Drive-up
Land
U.S. Forest Service · dispersed
Elevation
6,548 ft
Ground slope
1% · flat
County
Otero County, NM
Coordinates
32.43551, -105.07600
Cost
Free
Nearby & resupply — around Lincoln National Forest · Lincoln National Forest · NM (OpenStreetMap)
- Water featureBates Park Tank · ~0.3 mi · USGS: perennial lake or pond
- Nearest townCorner Well · ~4.3 mi
- Rail & highwaynone mapped within 10 mi
- Drinking waternone within 10 mi
- Fuelnone within 30 mi
- Propane / LPGnone within 31 mi
- Groceriesnone within 30 mi
- Mapping is thin out hereAn empty row means nothing is mapped within that radius — not that nothing exists. Small stores, seasonal resorts and single fuel pumps out here often never make it onto the map. Treat these as unconfirmed and ask locally.
From the field — what Dave saw, in person
Cell service
No signal
Getting there
Any vehicle managed it
Fire ring
Yes
Toilet on site
No
Tent friendly
Yes
Verdict
Recommended
EV charging — from Lincoln National Forest · Lincoln National Forest · NM — nearest public DC fast & Level 2 (US DOE station data)
- Nearest public DC fast charger46.2 mi straight-line NE — BPA at FLETC - Artesia · EVGATEWAY · CCS · 2 fast ports listed · listed open, last confirmed by AFDC 2026-09-16 · hours: 24 hours daily · directions
- Public DC fast stations within reachnone within 25 mi · 4 within 50 · 38 within 100 · 55 within 150
- Nearest listing NACS (Tesla)50.0 mi — Carlsbad, NM - Tesla Supercharger, Carlsbad
- Nearest listing CHAdeMO48.5 mi — Arby's - Carlsbad, Carlsbad
- Nearest public Level 2 (J1772)48.2 mi — Tate Branch Artesia (at a car dealership) · Non-Networked · J1772 · 1 Level 2 port listed · listed open, last confirmed by AFDC 2025-09-12 · hours: 24 hours daily
- Pricing at the fast chargernot listed
- Power (kW)not listed by AFDC — “DC fast” spans roughly 24 to 350 kW, so ask the network.
- Read this honestlyStraight-line miles, like every distance on this site. Roads run longer than this, and you have to get back. We know where a charger is listed. We don’t know if it works today, how fast it is, or the road miles. Check the network before you commit.
Snapshot 2026-09-16 · AFDC record 376505 · US DOE Alternative Fuels Data Center
Nearby restrooms — around Lincoln National Forest · Lincoln National Forest · NM — pit toilets, restrooms & rest areas (government data)
- Flush restroomSitting Bull Falls · ~25.5 mi SE · USFS
Coming out here — Lincoln National Forest · Lincoln National Forest · NM
- Surface water mapped nearby: USGS maps Bates Park Tank as a perennial lake or pond, ~0.3 mi from the pin (National Hydrography Dataset, data refreshed October 2022). Mapped as perennial is not the same as flowing today. Nobody has checked it for you. Filter or boil anything you drink.
- Ground slope around the pin: about 1% — flat. Measured on USGS's 3DEP elevation model (1 m data here), sampled every 10 metres around the point. That is the hillside, not the ground under your wheels — a graded pullout or a bench a few metres across is too small to show up at that spacing, and nobody has checked this one for you.
- No rail line and no interstate or US route is mapped within 10 mi of the pin. Checked against the FRA/BTS North American Rail Network (data updated Jul 21, 2026) and the Census's TIGER/Line primary roads (TIGER/Line 2025, released Oct 2025). Both are national files and both are maps of what is built, not counts of what moves on it.
- Assume no services at all. Most dispersed camping in a national forest has none: no tap, no power, no dump, often no toilet. Everything you need, you bring.
- Power: Dave carries his own — batteries or solar. A generator will run your rig and it is also the thing everybody camped near you can hear.
- Getting online: Dave recommends Starlink. He has had it since SpaceX introduced it, used it for four years living on the road, and it delivers as promised — several hundred nights out, and he can count on one hand the places he could not connect. The cable on his unit runs 150 feet, which is usually all it takes to find enough sky. Starlink → Referral link — Starlink pays Dave $100 in cash if you sign up through it, and that money funds this site and the next trip. It costs you nothing and does not change the recommendation.
Open Lincoln National Forest elsewhere
The unit that manages Lincoln National Forest
Stay limits, road closures and fire restrictions at Lincoln National Forest are set by Lincoln National Forest, not by the campsite — check there before you go.
How we know this — Lincoln National Forest
Source
Dave's own travels
Confidence
Researched — The record is detailed and internally consistent, and the coordinates land where the managing agency says this site is.
How it was placed
FIELD VERIFIED by Dave Lalande -- he has stood on this site. Coordinates are his own GPX track point, not a geocode. County and state confirmed against the FCC Census Block API (Otero County, NM). Everything under 'From the field' is a direct observation; nothing here is inferred from a land record.
A night on record
Dave's own GPS diary, 2017–2020: the date of the waypoint he saved here. The timestamp is UTC, so an entry saved in the evening carries the next morning's date. An observation of one night, never a forecast.
Nearest MVUM road
US Forest Service Motor Vehicle Use Map roads layer (EDW_MVUM_01, layer 1), Clearinghouse refresh Aug 30, 2026. Straight-line distance from the pin to the nearest mapped segment within 1 mi; surface type, maintenance level and open dates are the agency's own values for that segment, expanded from its codes and otherwise unedited. Nothing here says which road reaches the site.
EV chargers
US DOE Alternative Fuels Data Center station locator, snapshot 2026-09-16. Straight-line miles to the nearest public, open, unrestricted station; restricted and planned units are shown but never counted.
Field check
Verified on the ground. Dave has stood on this one. He camped here on 19 March 2019. Conditions still change — confirm before you commit.
What we don’t know about Lincoln National Forest
A land record can put you within a few meters of a spot. It cannot tell you any of this — so check it yourself, and treat anything below as the open question it is.
- Whether that MVUM road is the way in, and the last stretch beyond it
- Whether the site itself closes on its own schedule — only the road's season is on record
- How many rigs actually fit
- Current fire restrictions
- Whether any water here is drinkable
- Shade & wind exposure
- Noise and who else shows up
- Whether a listed EV charger works today, or the road miles to it
Before you go — Lincoln National Forest
Finding water out here →What “dispersed” means here →Reading a forest MVUM →First-night troubleshooting →All field notes →