Agency-listedUSFS · dispersedFreeRoad season: open (MVUM)
Rd 413 Site 13
Drive-up · U.S. Forest Service · ID · 47.65786, -116.39653
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Ask about this camp →U.S. Forest Service lists this site. On most of their ground you can camp away from developed sites pretty much anywhere — so treat this as a known-good spot, not the only one allowed. The unit sets stay limits and how far off road and water you must be. What changes is conditions — roads, gates, closures, fire rules. Check those with the unit before you commit to the drive.
Nearest road on the Forest Service MVUM — Rd 413 Site 13 · Idaho Panhandle National Forests · ID
The nearest road on the Forest Service MVUM is FR 413 (Marie Saddle), 50 ft from the pin. The MVUM lists it as native material surface and maintenance level 3 – suitable for passenger cars.
Road season: open (MVUM) The MVUM lists FR 413 (Marie Saddle), 50 ft from the pin, open to passenger vehicles year-round.
MVUM record for FR 413 (Marie Saddle): “01/01-12/31” Read against the calendar on 2026-09-22; with JavaScript your browser re-checks it against today.
From the Forest Service's own Motor Vehicle Use Map roads layer (EDW, Clearinghouse refresh Aug 30, 2026), straight-line from the pin to the nearest mapped segment. The nearest segment is not necessarily the way in, a maintenance level is the agency's class and not a report on today, and a road's season is the road's — it is not a campground order. What the levels mean → What an MVUM is →
USGS topo — contours & terrain
Aerial — USGS / NAIP
Weather outlook — at Rd 413 Site 13
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Live NWS area forecast (~2.5 km grid, not elevation-corrected). Camp sits at the elevation shown above.
Fire & smoke — around Rd 413 Site 13NIFC · AirNow
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Active wildfires from NIFC (within ~50 mi); air quality from AirNow. Always confirm current fire restrictions with the managing office before you go.
Everything you need — measured from Rd 413 Site 13 · Idaho Panhandle National Forests · ID
▲ your camp. Rings are 15, 30 and 60 straight-line miles; bearings are approximate and roads run longer.
Nearest of each
- FFuel6 mi
- GGrocery6 mi
- @Mail10 mi
- MMechanic11 mi
- EVEV fast charger13 mi
- DDump14 mi
- +Urgent care15 mi
- HHardware15 mi
- OOutfitter17 mi
- LLaundry17 mi
- WWater17 mi
- ShShower18 mi
- PPropane18 mi
- RxPharmacy19 mi
≤30 mi30–4545+water
The read: water's a short hop out, fuel & food sit about 6 mi out.
One dot per need — the nearest of each kind, straight-line from camp. Places from OpenStreetMap (© OpenStreetMap contributors); the EV fast charger from the US DOE station locator. Open in Google Maps ↗
The site — Rd 413 Site 13
Access
Drive-up
Land
U.S. Forest Service · dispersed
Ground slope
4.4% · gentle
Nearest highway
~5.6 mi · Interstate 90
State
ID
Coordinates
47.65786, -116.39653
Cost
Free
Nearby & resupply — around Rd 413 Site 13 · Idaho Panhandle National Forests · ID (OpenStreetMap)
- Water featureCopper Creek · under 0.1 mi · USGS: perennial stream
- Also mapped (OSM)Little North Fork Coeur d'Alene River (river) · mapped within 1.6 mi
- Nearest townCanyon · ~5.8 mi
- Nearest rail linenone mapped within 10 mi
- Nearest highway~5.6 mi · Interstate 90
- Drinking waternone within 10 mi
- FuelRose Lake General Store · ~6.3 mi
- Propane / LPGnone within 31 mi
- Dump station~14.5 mi
- GroceriesJunction Quick Stop · ~6.4 mi
- PharmacyKootenai Clinic Cancer Services Pharmacy (Specialty Pharmacy) · ~18.6 mi
- Hospital / clinicShoshone Medical Center · ~14.6 mi
- HardwareAce Hardware · ~18.0 mi
EV charging — from Rd 413 Site 13 · Idaho Panhandle National Forests · ID — nearest public DC fast & Level 2 (US DOE station data)
- Nearest public DC fast charger12.6 mi straight-line SE — Walmart 4249 (Smelterville, ID) · Electrify America · CHAdeMO, CCS · 4 fast ports listed · listed open, last confirmed by AFDC 2026-09-16 · hours: 24 hours daily · directions
- Public DC fast stations within reach4 within 25 mi · 37 within 50 · 69 within 100 · 101 within 150
- Nearest listing NACS (Tesla)14.5 mi — 76 Station - Tesla Supercharger, Kellogg
- Nearest public Level 2 (J1772)18.1 mi — The Coeur D'Alene Resort - Tesla Destination (at a hotel) · Tesla Destination · J1772, NACS (Tesla) · 4 Level 2 ports listed · listed open, last confirmed by AFDC 2026-08-27 · hours: 24 hours daily. Open to all vehicles.
- Pricing at the fast chargernot listed
- Power (kW)not listed by AFDC — “DC fast” spans roughly 24 to 350 kW, so ask the network.
- Read this honestlyStraight-line miles, like every distance on this site. Roads run longer than this, and you have to get back. We know where a charger is listed. We don’t know if it works today, how fast it is, or the road miles. Check the network before you commit.
Snapshot 2026-09-16 · AFDC record 123685 · US DOE Alternative Fuels Data Center
Nearby restrooms — around Rd 413 Site 13 · Idaho Panhandle National Forests · ID — pit toilets, restrooms & rest areas (government data)
- Vault / pit toiletBumblebee · ~5.7 mi E · USFS
- Vault / pit toiletMullan Road Historic Site · ~6.2 mi SW · USFS
- Vault / pit toiletHoneysuckle · ~6.7 mi NW · USFS
- RestroomKillarney Picnic Site - Floating Toilet · ~12.0 mi SW · BLM
Coming out here — Rd 413 Site 13 · Idaho Panhandle National Forests · ID
- Surface water mapped nearby: USGS maps Copper Creek as a perennial stream, under 0.1 mi from the pin (National Hydrography Dataset, data refreshed October 2022). Mapped as perennial is not the same as flowing today. Nobody has checked it for you. Filter or boil anything you drink.
- Ground slope around the pin: about 4.4% — gentle. Measured on USGS's 3DEP elevation model (1 m data here), sampled every 10 metres around the point. That is the hillside, not the ground under your wheels — a graded pullout or a bench a few metres across is too small to show up at that spacing, and nobody has checked this one for you.
- No rail line is mapped within 10 mi of the pin in the FRA/BTS North American Rail Network (data updated Jul 21, 2026) — abandoned, lifted and out-of-service track excluded, so a rail-trail does not count as one.
- Interstate 90 is mapped ~5.6 mi from the pin. Straight-line, from the Census's TIGER/Line primary roads (TIGER/Line 2025, released Oct 2025) — the divided, limited-access highways, which is why a state expressway or a two-lane US route near this camp would not appear here.
- Assume no services at all. Most dispersed camping in a national forest has none: no tap, no power, no dump, often no toilet. Everything you need, you bring.
- Power: Dave carries his own — batteries or solar. A generator will run your rig and it is also the thing everybody camped near you can hear.
- Getting online: Dave recommends Starlink. He has had it since SpaceX introduced it, used it for four years living on the road, and it delivers as promised — several hundred nights out, and he can count on one hand the places he could not connect. The cable on his unit runs 150 feet, which is usually all it takes to find enough sky. Starlink → Referral link — Starlink pays Dave $100 in cash if you sign up through it, and that money funds this site and the next trip. It costs you nothing and does not change the recommendation.
Open Rd 413 Site 13 elsewhere
Other camps near Rd 413 Site 13
If this one is full, gated or washed out.
- Rd 413 Site 14~0.2 mi
- Rd 413 Site 12~0.3 mi
- Rd 413 Site 11~0.4 mi
- Road 413 Site 7~0.5 mi
The unit that manages Rd 413 Site 13
Stay limits, road closures and fire restrictions at Rd 413 Site 13 are set by Idaho Panhandle National Forests, not by the campsite — check there before you go.
How we know this — Rd 413 Site 13
Source
U.S. Forest Service recreation data
Confidence
Likely — The record is good enough to put a pin on, but thin in places. Treat the details as a starting point, not gospel.
How it was placed
USFS/BLM authoritative: free & dispersed. Access not field-checked (assumed drive-up).
Nearest MVUM road
US Forest Service Motor Vehicle Use Map roads layer (EDW_MVUM_01, layer 1), Clearinghouse refresh Aug 30, 2026. Straight-line distance from the pin to the nearest mapped segment within 1 mi; surface type, maintenance level and open dates are the agency's own values for that segment, expanded from its codes and otherwise unedited. Nothing here says which road reaches the site.
EV chargers
US DOE Alternative Fuels Data Center station locator, snapshot 2026-09-16. Straight-line miles to the nearest public, open, unrestricted station; restricted and planned units are shown but never counted.
Field check
On the agency's books. The land manager inventoried this site, so its existence is not in question — current conditions are. Nobody from here has camped it recently.
What we don’t know about Rd 413 Site 13
A land record can put you within a few meters of a spot. It cannot tell you any of this — so check it yourself, and treat anything below as the open question it is.
- Whether that MVUM road is the way in, and the last stretch beyond it
- Whether the site itself closes on its own schedule — only the road's season is on record
- How many rigs actually fit
- Cell coverage by carrier
- Current fire restrictions
- Whether any water here is drinkable
- Shade & wind exposure
- Noise and who else shows up
- Whether a listed EV charger works today, or the road miles to it
Before you go — Rd 413 Site 13
Finding water out here →What “dispersed” means here →Forest road numbers →Dispersed camping tips →All field notes →