Agency-listedUSFS · dispersedFree
Ridge Rd 4161 008
Drive-up · U.S. Forest Service · MT · 46.66551, -111.41306
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Ask about this camp →U.S. Forest Service lists this site. On most of their ground you can camp away from developed sites pretty much anywhere — so treat this as a known-good spot, not the only one allowed. The unit sets stay limits and how far off road and water you must be. What changes is conditions — roads, gates, closures, fire rules. Check those with the unit before you commit to the drive.
USGS topo — contours & terrain
Aerial — USGS / NAIP
Weather outlook — at Ridge Rd 4161 008
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Live NWS area forecast (~2.5 km grid, not elevation-corrected). Camp sits at 6,564 ft.
Fire & smoke — around Ridge Rd 4161 008NIFC · AirNow
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Active wildfires from NIFC (within ~50 mi); air quality from AirNow. Always confirm current fire restrictions with the managing office before you go.
Everything you need — measured from Ridge Rd 4161 008 · Helena-Lewis and Clark National Forest · MT
Straight-line miles · bearings approx · roads run longer
Nearest of each
- ShShower11 mi
- DDump11 mi
- GGrocery11 mi
- FFuel17 mi
- MMechanic24 mi
- @Mail24 mi
- HHardware24 mi
- LLaundry25 mi
- RxPharmacy26 mi
- +Urgent care27 mi
- OOutfitter28 mi
- EVEV fast charger28 mi
- WWater30 mi
≤30 mi30–4545+water
The read: water is a real 30-mi drive, fuel & food sit about 11 mi out.
Not within 60 mi: Propane. Plan those before you head up.
One dot per need — the nearest of each kind, straight-line from camp. Places from OpenStreetMap (© OpenStreetMap contributors); the EV fast charger from the US DOE station locator. Open in Google Maps ↗
The site — Ridge Rd 4161 008
Access
Drive-up
Land
U.S. Forest Service · dispersed
Elevation
6,564 ft
State
MT
Coordinates
46.66551, -111.41306
Cost
Free
Nearby & resupply — around Ridge Rd 4161 008 · Helena-Lewis and Clark National Forest · MT (OpenStreetMap)
- Nearest townWatson · ~2.1 mi
- Drinking waternone within 10 mi
- FuelFuel · ~17.4 mi
- Propane / LPGnone within 31 mi
- Dump station~11.2 mi
- GroceriesHeritage Food Store · ~24.1 mi
- PharmacyCastle Mountain Drug · ~25.6 mi
- Hospital / clinicBillings Clinic Broadwater · ~24.2 mi
- HardwareHardware Hanke · ~24.4 mi
EV charging — from Ridge Rd 4161 008 · Helena-Lewis and Clark National Forest · MT — nearest public DC fast & Level 2 (US DOE station data)
- Nearest public DC fast charger28.4 mi straight-line W — Helena, MT - Tesla Supercharger (at a grocery store) · Tesla · NACS (Tesla) · 8 fast ports listed · listed open, last confirmed by AFDC 2026-06-18 · hours: 24 hours daily. NACS partner enabled. · directions
- Public DC fast stations within reachnone within 25 mi · 4 within 50 · 20 within 100 · 35 within 150
- Nearest listing CCS28.8 mi — L146 DC 2, Helena
- Nearest listing CHAdeMO28.8 mi — L146 DC 2, Helena
- Nearest public Level 2 (J1772)19.5 mi — Silos's Junction - Tesla Destination, Townsend, MT · Tesla Destination · J1772, NACS (Tesla) · 2 Level 2 ports listed · listed open, last confirmed by AFDC 2026-08-27 · hours: 24 hours daily. Open to all vehicles.
- Pricing at the fast chargernot listed
- Power (kW)not listed by AFDC — “DC fast” spans roughly 24 to 350 kW, so ask the network.
- Read this honestlyStraight-line miles, like every distance on this site. Roads run longer than this, and you have to get back. We know where a charger is listed. We don’t know if it works today, how fast it is, or the road miles. Check the network before you commit.
Snapshot 2026-09-16 · AFDC record 163997 · US DOE Alternative Fuels Data Center
Nearby restrooms — around Ridge Rd 4161 008 · Helena-Lewis and Clark National Forest · MT — pit toilets, restrooms & rest areas (government data)
- Vault / pit toiletBar Gulch Cabin · ~10.3 mi W · USFS
- Vault / pit toiletHellGate Group Use Area - Single Vault Toilet Building · ~11.3 mi W · BoR
- Vault / pit toiletGoose Bay Dispersed Campground - Single Precast Vault Toilet Building · ~11.3 mi SW · BoR
- Vault / pit toiletHellGate Campground - Single Vault Toilet Building · ~11.3 mi W · BoR
Open Ridge Rd 4161 008 elsewhere
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- Benton Rd 287 018~1.8 mi
The unit that manages Ridge Rd 4161 008
Stay limits, road closures and fire restrictions at Ridge Rd 4161 008 are set by Helena-Lewis and Clark National Forest, not by the campsite — check there before you go.
Snow, and when this opens
The nearest automatic snow station is Pickfoot Creek at 6,680 ft, about 9 miles away. That is about the height of this camp, so it is a fair proxy. We do not repeat a depth here, because any number we stored would be stale by the time you read it — the station publishes today's.
How we know this — Ridge Rd 4161 008
Source
U.S. Forest Service recreation data
Confidence
Likely — The record is good enough to put a pin on, but thin in places. Treat the details as a starting point, not gospel.
How it was placed
USFS/BLM authoritative: free & dispersed. Access not field-checked (assumed drive-up).
EV chargers
US DOE Alternative Fuels Data Center station locator, snapshot 2026-09-16. Straight-line miles to the nearest public, open, unrestricted station; restricted and planned units are shown but never counted.
Field check
On the agency's books. The land manager inventoried this site, so its existence is not in question — current conditions are. Nobody from here has camped it recently.
What we don’t know about Ridge Rd 4161 008
A land record can put you within a few meters of a spot. It cannot tell you any of this — so check it yourself, and treat anything below as the open question it is.
- Road surface & last-mile access
- How many rigs actually fit
- Cell coverage by carrier
- Seasonal & winter access
- Current fire restrictions
- Whether any water here is drinkable
- Shade & wind exposure
- Noise and who else shows up
- Whether a listed EV charger works today, or the road miles to it
Before you go — Ridge Rd 4161 008
Winter vs summer roads →Water on public land →What “dispersed” means here →Camping with a dog →All field notes →
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