Agency-listedUSFS · dispersedFree
Road 8974A-05
Drive-up · U.S. Forest Service · MT · 47.32315, -112.59710
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Ask about this camp →U.S. Forest Service lists this site. On most of their ground you can camp away from developed sites pretty much anywhere — so treat this as a known-good spot, not the only one allowed. The unit sets stay limits and how far off road and water you must be. What changes is conditions — roads, gates, closures, fire rules. Check those with the unit before you commit to the drive.
USGS topo — contours & terrain
Aerial — USGS / NAIP
Weather outlook — at Road 8974A-05
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Live NWS area forecast (~2.5 km grid, not elevation-corrected). Camp sits at the elevation shown above.
Fire & smoke — around Road 8974A-05NIFC · AirNow
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Active wildfires from NIFC (within ~50 mi); air quality from AirNow. Always confirm current fire restrictions with the managing office before you go.
Everything you need — measured from Road 8974A-05 · Helena-Lewis and Clark National Forest · MT
Straight-line miles · bearings approx · roads run longer
Nearest of each
- WWater6 mi
- @Mail15 mi
- FFuel26 mi
- GGrocery26 mi
- HHardware26 mi
- RxPharmacy35 mi
- MMechanic35 mi
- OOutfitter38 mi
- LLaundry39 mi
- +Urgent care39 mi
- ShShower41 mi
- DDump42 mi
- PPropane52 mi
- EVEV fast charger56 mi
≤30 mi30–4545+water
The read: water's a short hop out, fuel & food sit about 26 mi out, the nearest EV fast charger is a 56-mi run (and back).
One dot per need — the nearest of each kind, straight-line from camp. Places from OpenStreetMap (© OpenStreetMap contributors); the EV fast charger from the US DOE station locator. Open in Google Maps ↗
The site — Road 8974A-05
Access
Drive-up
Land
U.S. Forest Service · dispersed
State
MT
Coordinates
47.32315, -112.59710
Cost
Free
Nearby & resupply — around Road 8974A-05 · Helena-Lewis and Clark National Forest · MT (OpenStreetMap)
- Water featureElk Creek (stream) · nearby
- Nearest townUpper Ellis Place · ~12.1 mi
- Drinking waterDrinking water · ~6.3 mi
- FuelCenex · ~25.7 mi
- Propane / LPGnone within 31 mi
- GroceriesAllen's Manix Store · ~15.2 mi
- HardwareGrizzly Home Center · ~25.7 mi
EV charging — from Road 8974A-05 · Helena-Lewis and Clark National Forest · MT — nearest public DC fast & Level 2 (US DOE station data)
- Nearest public DC fast charger55.6 mi straight-line SE — Target T1282 (Helena, MT) · Electrify America · CCS · 6 fast ports listed · listed open, last confirmed by AFDC 2026-09-16 · hours: 24 hours daily · directions
- Public DC fast stations within reachnone within 25 mi · none within 50 · 19 within 100 · 36 within 150
- Nearest listing NACS (Tesla)56.1 mi — Helena, MT - Tesla Supercharger, Helena
- Nearest listing CHAdeMO56.7 mi — L146 DC1, Helena
- Nearest public Level 2 (J1772)39.2 mi — Old Trail Museum Parking Lot, Choteau, MT · CHARGELAB · J1772 · 2 Level 2 ports listed · listed open, last confirmed by AFDC 2026-09-16 · hours: not listed
- Also listed, not counted aboveNACS-only Level 2 — Trixi's Saloon - Tesla Destination, Ovando, 32.4 mi · NACS (Tesla) · hours: 24 hours daily. Open to Teslas only. · AFDC lists it “Free”
- Pricing at the fast chargernot listed
- Power (kW)not listed by AFDC — “DC fast” spans roughly 24 to 350 kW, so ask the network.
- Read this honestlyStraight-line miles, like every distance on this site. Roads run longer than this, and you have to get back. We know where a charger is listed. We don’t know if it works today, how fast it is, or the road miles. Check the network before you commit.
Snapshot 2026-09-16 · AFDC record 279481 · US DOE Alternative Fuels Data Center
Nearby restrooms — around Road 8974A-05 · Helena-Lewis and Clark National Forest · MT — pit toilets, restrooms & rest areas (government data)
- Vault / pit toiletElk Creek Th · ~0.3 mi W · USFS
- Vault / pit toiletDearborn River Recreation Site - Vault Toilet #1 · ~5.3 mi SE · BLM
- Vault / pit toiletDearborn Th · ~5.3 mi SE · USFS
- Vault / pit toiletSmith Creek Th · ~5.7 mi NW · USFS
Open Road 8974A-05 elsewhere
Other camps near Road 8974A-05
If this one is full, gated or washed out.
- Elk Cr Road -003~0.2 mi
- Road 8974A-06~0.2 mi
- Road 8974B-01~0.4 mi
- Road 8974B-04~0.5 mi
The unit that manages Road 8974A-05
Stay limits, road closures and fire restrictions at Road 8974A-05 are set by Helena-Lewis and Clark National Forest, not by the campsite — check there before you go.
Snow, and when this opens
The nearest automatic snow station is Wood Creek at 5,970 ft, about 13 miles away. We do not repeat a depth here, because any number we stored would be stale by the time you read it — the station publishes today's.
How we know this — Road 8974A-05
Source
U.S. Forest Service recreation data
Confidence
Likely — The record is good enough to put a pin on, but thin in places. Treat the details as a starting point, not gospel.
How it was placed
USFS/BLM authoritative: free & dispersed. Access not field-checked (assumed drive-up).
EV chargers
US DOE Alternative Fuels Data Center station locator, snapshot 2026-09-16. Straight-line miles to the nearest public, open, unrestricted station; restricted and planned units are shown but never counted.
Field check
On the agency's books. The land manager inventoried this site, so its existence is not in question — current conditions are. Nobody from here has camped it recently.
What we don’t know about Road 8974A-05
A land record can put you within a few meters of a spot. It cannot tell you any of this — so check it yourself, and treat anything below as the open question it is.
- Road surface & last-mile access
- How many rigs actually fit
- Cell coverage by carrier
- Seasonal & winter access
- Current fire restrictions
- Whether any water here is drinkable
- Shade & wind exposure
- Noise and who else shows up
- Whether a listed EV charger works today, or the road miles to it
Before you go — Road 8974A-05
Finding water out here →What “dispersed” means here →Forest road numbers →Dispersed camping tips →All field notes →
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