Agency-listedUSFSFeeRoad season: open (MVUM)
Troublesome Creek
Drive-up · U.S. Forest Service · WA · 47.89763, -121.40090
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Ask about this camp →U.S. Forest Service lists this as a developed campground. Expect marked sites, a fee station or a reservation, and the usual campground rules. The dispersed-camping freedom of the surrounding forest does not apply inside it. What changes is conditions — roads, gates, closures, fire rules. Check those with the unit before you commit to the drive.
Nearest road on the Forest Service MVUM — Troublesome Creek · Mt. Baker-Snoqualmie National Forest · WA
The nearest road on the Forest Service MVUM is FR 6300410 (Troublesome Cr Cg-Both Loops), 410 ft from the pin. The MVUM lists it as bituminous surface treatment surface and maintenance level 4 – moderate degree of user comfort.
Road season: open (MVUM) The MVUM lists FR 6300410 (Troublesome Cr Cg-Both Loops), 410 ft from the pin, open to passenger vehicles year-round.
MVUM record for FR 6300410 (Troublesome Cr Cg-Both Loops): “01/01-12/31” Read against the calendar on 2026-09-22; with JavaScript your browser re-checks it against today.
From the Forest Service's own Motor Vehicle Use Map roads layer (EDW, Clearinghouse refresh Aug 30, 2026), straight-line from the pin to the nearest mapped segment. The nearest segment is not necessarily the way in, a maintenance level is the agency's class and not a report on today, and a road's season is the road's — it is not a campground order. What the levels mean → What an MVUM is →
USGS topo — contours & terrain
Aerial — USGS / NAIP
Weather outlook — at Troublesome Creek
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Live NWS area forecast (~2.5 km grid, not elevation-corrected). Camp sits at 1,311 ft.
Fire & smoke — around Troublesome CreekNIFC · AirNow
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Active wildfires from NIFC (within ~50 mi); air quality from AirNow. Always confirm current fire restrictions with the managing office before you go.
Everything you need — measured from Troublesome Creek · Mt. Baker-Snoqualmie National Forest · WA
▲ your camp. Rings are 15, 30 and 60 straight-line miles; bearings are approximate and roads run longer.
Nearest of each
- WWater0 mi
- GGrocery9 mi
- @Mail9 mi
- FFuel13 mi
- MMechanic13 mi
- EVEV fast charger13 mi
- HHardware13 mi
- LLaundry13 mi
- OOutfitter14 mi
- +Urgent care18 mi
- RxPharmacy20 mi
- ShShower20 mi
- AAir-up26 mi
- PPropane26 mi
- DDump27 mi
≤30 mi30–4545+water
The read: water is basically at camp, fuel & food sit about 9 mi out.
One dot per need — the nearest of each kind, straight-line from camp. Places from OpenStreetMap (© OpenStreetMap contributors); the EV fast charger from the US DOE station locator. Open in Google Maps ↗
The site — Troublesome Creek
Access
Drive-up
Land
U.S. Forest Service
Elevation
1,311 ft
Ground slope
16.2% · steep
Nearest rail line
~8.5 mi · main line
State
WA
Coordinates
47.89763, -121.40090
Cost
Fee
Nearby & resupply — around Troublesome Creek · Mt. Baker-Snoqualmie National Forest · WA (OpenStreetMap)
- Water featureTroublesome Creek · under 0.1 mi · USGS: perennial stream
- Also mapped (OSM)North Fork Skykomish River (river) · mapped within 1.6 mi
- Nearest townGalena · ~1.6 mi
- Nearest rail line~8.5 mi · main line
- Nearest highwayno interstate or US route within 10 mi
- Drinking waterDrinking water · ~0.1 mi
- FuelSky Gas · ~13.0 mi
- Propane / LPGnone within 31 mi
- Dump station~27.1 mi
- Groceriesder Baring Store · ~9.5 mi
- PharmacySultan Pharmacy · ~19.9 mi
- Hospital / clinicSky River Natural Health Center · ~17.9 mi
- HardwareBarmon Lumber · ~18.1 mi
EV charging — from Troublesome Creek · Mt. Baker-Snoqualmie National Forest · WA — nearest public DC fast & Level 2 (US DOE station data)
- Nearest public DC fast charger13.0 mi straight-line S — WCEH Skykomish · EVCS · CHAdeMO, J1772, CCS · 1 fast port listed · listed open, last confirmed by AFDC 2026-09-16 · hours: not listed · directions
- Public DC fast stations within reach4 within 25 mi · 176 within 50 · 364 within 100 · 418 within 150
- Nearest listing NACS (Tesla)26.8 mi — Monroe, WA - Tesla Supercharger, Monroe
- Nearest public Level 2 (J1772)13.0 mi — WCEH Skykomish · EVCS · CHAdeMO, J1772, CCS · 1 Level 2 port listed · listed open, last confirmed by AFDC 2026-09-16 · hours: not listed
- Pricing at the fast chargernot listed
- Power (kW)not listed by AFDC — “DC fast” spans roughly 24 to 350 kW, so ask the network.
- Read this honestlyStraight-line miles, like every distance on this site. Roads run longer than this, and you have to get back. We know where a charger is listed. We don’t know if it works today, how fast it is, or the road miles. Check the network before you commit.
Snapshot 2026-09-16 · AFDC record 65869 · US DOE Alternative Fuels Data Center
Nearby restrooms — around Troublesome Creek · Mt. Baker-Snoqualmie National Forest · WA — pit toilets, restrooms & rest areas (government data)
- Vault / pit toiletTroublesome Creek · at this camp · USFS
- Vault / pit toiletTroublesome Creek · at this camp · USFS
- Vault / pit toiletSan Juan · ~1.7 mi E · USFS
- Vault / pit toiletBlanca Lake · ~4.3 mi E · USFS
Coming out here — Troublesome Creek · Mt. Baker-Snoqualmie National Forest · WA
- Surface water mapped nearby: USGS maps Troublesome Creek as a perennial stream, under 0.1 mi from the pin (National Hydrography Dataset, data refreshed October 2022). Mapped as perennial is not the same as flowing today. Nobody has checked it for you. Filter or boil anything you drink.
- Ground slope around the pin: about 16.2% — steep. Measured on USGS's 3DEP elevation model (1 m data here), sampled every 10 metres around the point. That is the hillside, not the ground under your wheels — a graded pullout or a bench a few metres across is too small to show up at that spacing, and nobody has checked this one for you.
- Rail line mapped ~8.5 mi from the pin — the national rail atlas classes it as a main line. The atlas also records Amtrak service on it. That is the FRA/BTS North American Rail Network (data updated Jul 21, 2026), which records that a line is there and what class of track it is. Whether anything runs on it, how often, and at what hour, it does not say, and nobody has checked this one for you.
- No interstate or US route is mapped within 10 mi of the pin in the Census's TIGER/Line primary roads (TIGER/Line 2025, released Oct 2025). That file holds the divided, limited-access highways only — a state expressway or a two-lane US route near this camp would not be in it.
- Power: Dave carries his own — batteries or solar. A generator will run your rig and it is also the thing everybody camped near you can hear.
- Getting online: Dave recommends Starlink. He has had it since SpaceX introduced it, used it for four years living on the road, and it delivers as promised — several hundred nights out, and he can count on one hand the places he could not connect. The cable on his unit runs 150 feet, which is usually all it takes to find enough sky. Starlink → Referral link — Starlink pays Dave $100 in cash if you sign up through it, and that money funds this site and the next trip. It costs you nothing and does not change the recommendation.
Open Troublesome Creek elsewhere
Other camps near Troublesome Creek
If this one is full, gated or washed out.
- San Juan~1.7 mi · fee
- Monte Cristo~6.2 mi
- Monte Cristo~6.2 mi
- Dispersed camp #2 — Snohomish County, WA~6.3 mi
The unit that manages Troublesome Creek
Stay limits, road closures and fire restrictions at Troublesome Creek are set by Mt. Baker-Snoqualmie National Forest, not by the campsite — check there before you go.
How we know this — Troublesome Creek
Source
U.S. Forest Service recreation data
Confidence
Likely — The record is good enough to put a pin on, but thin in places. Treat the details as a starting point, not gospel.
How it was placed
Developed FEE campground (not free) - review | auto:usfs-fee 2026-08-20: US Forest Service developed campground, agency coordinates, agency states a fee. No dollar amount in the agency record -- expect a charge and confirm the current rate before you go. Not field-verified.
Nearest MVUM road
US Forest Service Motor Vehicle Use Map roads layer (EDW_MVUM_01, layer 1), Clearinghouse refresh Aug 30, 2026. Straight-line distance from the pin to the nearest mapped segment within 1 mi; surface type, maintenance level and open dates are the agency's own values for that segment, expanded from its codes and otherwise unedited. Nothing here says which road reaches the site.
EV chargers
US DOE Alternative Fuels Data Center station locator, snapshot 2026-09-16. Straight-line miles to the nearest public, open, unrestricted station; restricted and planned units are shown but never counted.
Field check
On the agency's books. The land manager inventoried this site, so its existence is not in question — current conditions are. Nobody from here has camped it recently.
What we don’t know about Troublesome Creek
A land record can put you within a few meters of a spot. It cannot tell you any of this — so check it yourself, and treat anything below as the open question it is.
- Whether that MVUM road is the way in, and the last stretch beyond it
- Whether the site itself closes on its own schedule — only the road's season is on record
- How many rigs actually fit
- Cell coverage by carrier
- Current fire restrictions
- Whether any water here is drinkable
- Shade & wind exposure
- Noise and who else shows up
- Whether a listed EV charger works today, or the road miles to it
Before you go — Troublesome Creek
Finding water out here →What “dispersed” means here →Reading a forest MVUM →Getting unstuck →All field notes →