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Upper Blue Cg
Drive-up · U.S. Forest Service · AZ · 33.69348, -109.07107
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Ask about this camp →U.S. Forest Service lists this site. On most of their ground you can camp away from developed sites pretty much anywhere — so treat this as a known-good spot, not the only one allowed. The unit sets stay limits and how far off road and water you must be. What changes is conditions — roads, gates, closures, fire rules. Check those with the unit before you commit to the drive.
Nearest road on the Forest Service MVUM — Upper Blue Cg · Apache-Sitgreaves National Forests · AZ
No road within 1 mi of the pin in the national MVUM layer — and that layer carries no data at all for this forest (unit 0301), so this is the layer's silence, not the ground's. Access may be a county road or unmapped.
From the Forest Service's own Motor Vehicle Use Map roads layer (EDW, Clearinghouse refresh Aug 30, 2026), straight-line from the pin to the nearest mapped segment. The nearest segment is not necessarily the way in, a maintenance level is the agency's class and not a report on today, and a road's season is the road's — it is not a campground order. What the levels mean → What an MVUM is →
USGS topo — contours & terrain
Aerial — USGS / NAIP
Weather outlook — at Upper Blue Cg
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Live NWS area forecast (~2.5 km grid, not elevation-corrected). Camp sits at 6,241 ft.
Fire & smoke — around Upper Blue CgNIFC · AirNow
Checking active fires & air quality…
Active wildfires from NIFC (within ~50 mi); air quality from AirNow. Always confirm current fire restrictions with the managing office before you go.
Everything you need — measured from Upper Blue Cg · Apache-Sitgreaves National Forests · AZ
▲ your camp. Rings are 15, 30 and 60 straight-line miles; bearings are approximate and roads run longer.
Nearest of each
- @Mail11 mi
- MMechanic11 mi
- FFuel12 mi
- GGrocery12 mi
- HHardware12 mi
- WWater15 mi
- +Urgent care18 mi
- ShShower23 mi
- DDump23 mi
- LLaundry32 mi
- PPropane55 mi
- RxPharmacy59 mi
- EVEV fast charger67 mi
≤30 mi30–4545+water
The read: water's a short hop out, fuel & food sit about 12 mi out, the nearest EV fast charger is a 67-mi run (and back).
One dot per need — the nearest of each kind, straight-line from camp. Places from OpenStreetMap (© OpenStreetMap contributors); the EV fast charger from the US DOE station locator. Open in Google Maps ↗
The site — Upper Blue Cg
Access
Drive-up
Land
U.S. Forest Service
Elevation
6,241 ft
Ground slope
12.4% · noticeable
State
AZ
Coordinates
33.69348, -109.07107
Cost
Free
Nearby & resupply — around Upper Blue Cg · Apache-Sitgreaves National Forests · AZ (OpenStreetMap)
- Water featureBlue River · ~0.1 mi · USGS: perennial river
- Nearest townWhispering Pines · ~2.7 mi
- Rail & highwaynone mapped within 10 mi
- Drinking waternone within 10 mi
- Fuelnone within 30 mi
- Propane / LPGPropane · ~28.3 mi
- Dump station~23.1 mi
- GroceriesAlpine Country Store · ~11.5 mi
EV charging — from Upper Blue Cg · Apache-Sitgreaves National Forests · AZ — nearest public DC fast & Level 2 (US DOE station data)
- Nearest public DC fast charger66.7 mi straight-line NW — HT02038 ABB STATION 1, Show Low, AZ · ChargePoint Network · CCS · 1 fast port listed · listed open, last confirmed by AFDC 2026-09-16 · hours: 24 hours daily · directions
- Public DC fast stations within reachnone within 25 mi · none within 50 · 7 within 100 · 75 within 150
- Nearest listing NACS (Tesla)95.7 mi — Lordsburg, NM - Tesla Supercharger, Lordsburg
- Nearest listing CHAdeMO96.2 mi — Major Market Inc, Zuni
- Nearest public Level 2 (J1772)57.9 mi — CHARLIE CLARKS C.C. CHARGING 1, Pinetop-Lakeside, AZ · ChargePoint Network · J1772 · 2 Level 2 ports listed · listed open, last confirmed by AFDC 2026-09-16 · hours: 24 hours daily
- Pricing at the fast chargernot listed
- Power (kW)not listed by AFDC — “DC fast” spans roughly 24 to 350 kW, so ask the network.
- Read this honestlyStraight-line miles, like every distance on this site. Roads run longer than this, and you have to get back. We know where a charger is listed. We don’t know if it works today, how fast it is, or the road miles. Check the network before you commit.
Snapshot 2026-09-16 · AFDC record 450693 · US DOE Alternative Fuels Data Center
Nearby restrooms — around Upper Blue Cg · Apache-Sitgreaves National Forests · AZ — pit toilets, restrooms & rest areas (government data)
- Vault / pit toiletUpper Blue Cg · at this camp · USFS
- RestroomFlying T · ~4.0 mi SE · USFS
- Vault / pit toiletBlue Crossing Cg · ~4.7 mi S · USFS
- RestroomHinkle Park Trailhead · ~4.8 mi SE · USFS
Coming out here — Upper Blue Cg · Apache-Sitgreaves National Forests · AZ
- Surface water mapped nearby: USGS maps Blue River as a perennial river, ~0.1 mi from the pin (National Hydrography Dataset, data refreshed October 2022). Mapped as perennial is not the same as flowing today. Nobody has checked it for you. Filter or boil anything you drink.
- Ground slope around the pin: about 12.4% — noticeable. Measured on USGS's 3DEP elevation model (1 m data here), sampled every 10 metres around the point. That is the hillside, not the ground under your wheels — a graded pullout or a bench a few metres across is too small to show up at that spacing, and nobody has checked this one for you.
- No rail line and no interstate or US route is mapped within 10 mi of the pin. Checked against the FRA/BTS North American Rail Network (data updated Jul 21, 2026) and the Census's TIGER/Line primary roads (TIGER/Line 2025, released Oct 2025). Both are national files and both are maps of what is built, not counts of what moves on it.
- Power: Dave carries his own — batteries or solar. A generator will run your rig and it is also the thing everybody camped near you can hear.
- Getting online: Dave recommends Starlink. He has had it since SpaceX introduced it, used it for four years living on the road, and it delivers as promised — several hundred nights out, and he can count on one hand the places he could not connect. The cable on his unit runs 150 feet, which is usually all it takes to find enough sky. Starlink → Referral link — Starlink pays Dave $100 in cash if you sign up through it, and that money funds this site and the next trip. It costs you nothing and does not change the recommendation.
Open Upper Blue Cg elsewhere
Other camps near Upper Blue Cg
If this one is full, gated or washed out.
- Upper Blue Campground~0.1 mi
- Blue Crossing Campground~4.5 mi
- Blue Crossing Cg~4.7 mi
- Pueblo Park Campground~9.3 mi
The unit that manages Upper Blue Cg
Stay limits, road closures and fire restrictions at Upper Blue Cg are set by Apache-Sitgreaves National Forests, not by the campsite — check there before you go.
Snow, and when this opens
The nearest automatic snow station is Frisco Divide at 8,010 ft, about 8 miles away. It sits about 1,769 ft higher than this camp, so treat it as a guide rather than a reading for this spot. We do not repeat a depth here, because any number we stored would be stale by the time you read it — the station publishes today's.
How we know this — Upper Blue Cg
Source
U.S. Forest Service recreation data
Confidence
Likely — The record is good enough to put a pin on, but thin in places. Treat the details as a starting point, not gospel.
How it was placed
Free but developed (not dispersed) - review
Nearest MVUM road
US Forest Service Motor Vehicle Use Map roads layer (EDW_MVUM_01, layer 1), Clearinghouse refresh Aug 30, 2026. Straight-line distance from the pin to the nearest mapped segment within 1 mi; surface type, maintenance level and open dates are the agency's own values for that segment, expanded from its codes and otherwise unedited. Nothing here says which road reaches the site.
EV chargers
US DOE Alternative Fuels Data Center station locator, snapshot 2026-09-16. Straight-line miles to the nearest public, open, unrestricted station; restricted and planned units are shown but never counted.
Field check
On the agency's books. The land manager inventoried this site, so its existence is not in question — current conditions are. Nobody from here has camped it recently.
What we don’t know about Upper Blue Cg
A land record can put you within a few meters of a spot. It cannot tell you any of this — so check it yourself, and treat anything below as the open question it is.
- Road surface & last-mile access
- How many rigs actually fit
- Cell coverage by carrier
- Seasonal & winter access
- Current fire restrictions
- Whether any water here is drinkable
- Shade & wind exposure
- Noise and who else shows up
- Whether a listed EV charger works today, or the road miles to it
Before you go — Upper Blue Cg
Finding water out here →What “dispersed” means here →Reading a forest MVUM →Picking a spot →All field notes →