Agency-listedUSFS · dispersedFree
Upper Lightning -16B
Drive-up · U.S. Forest Service · ID · 48.35003, -116.22231
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Ask about this camp →U.S. Forest Service lists this site. On most of their ground you can camp away from developed sites pretty much anywhere — so treat this as a known-good spot, not the only one allowed. The unit sets stay limits and how far off road and water you must be. What changes is conditions — roads, gates, closures, fire rules. Check those with the unit before you commit to the drive.
USGS topo — contours & terrain
Aerial — USGS / NAIP
Weather outlook — at Upper Lightning -16B
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Live NWS area forecast (~2.5 km grid, not elevation-corrected). Camp sits at the elevation shown above.
Fire & smoke — around Upper Lightning -16BNIFC · AirNow
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Active wildfires from NIFC (within ~50 mi); air quality from AirNow. Always confirm current fire restrictions with the managing office before you go.
Everything you need — measured from Upper Lightning -16B · Idaho Panhandle National Forests · ID
Straight-line miles · bearings approx · roads run longer
Nearest of each
- FFuel8 mi
- GGrocery9 mi
- MMechanic14 mi
- HHardware15 mi
- OOutfitter15 mi
- +Urgent care15 mi
- EVEV fast charger15 mi
- @Mail16 mi
- RxPharmacy16 mi
- LLaundry24 mi
- WWater26 mi
- DDump32 mi
- ShShower39 mi
- PPropane53 mi
≤30 mi30–4545+water
The read: water is a real 26-mi drive, fuel & food sit about 8 mi out.
One dot per need — the nearest of each kind, straight-line from camp. Places from OpenStreetMap (© OpenStreetMap contributors); the EV fast charger from the US DOE station locator. Open in Google Maps ↗
The site — Upper Lightning -16B
Access
Drive-up
Land
U.S. Forest Service · dispersed
State
ID
Coordinates
48.35003, -116.22231
Cost
Free
Nearby & resupply — around Upper Lightning -16B · Idaho Panhandle National Forests · ID (OpenStreetMap)
- Water featureSmorgasbord Creek (stream) · nearby
- Nearest townHope · ~8.1 mi
- Drinking waternone within 10 mi
- FuelDiesel Pumps · ~13.6 mi
- Propane / LPGnone within 31 mi
- GroceriesPack River General Store · ~8.6 mi
- Hospital / clinicBonner County Hospital · ~15.9 mi
- HardwareTrue Value · ~16.9 mi
EV charging — from Upper Lightning -16B · Idaho Panhandle National Forests · ID — nearest public DC fast & Level 2 (US DOE station data)
- Nearest public DC fast charger15.1 mi straight-line W — TAYLOR & SONS CHEVROLET, Ponderay, ID · EV Connect · CCS · 2 fast ports listed · listed open, last confirmed by AFDC 2026-09-16 · hours: 24 hours daily · directions
- Public DC fast stations within reach3 within 25 mi · 5 within 50 · 59 within 100 · 87 within 150
- Nearest listing NACS (Tesla)51.6 mi — Coeur d'Alene, ID - Tesla Supercharger, Coeur d'Alene
- Nearest listing CHAdeMO24.3 mi — V.C. STATION BF FAST CHARGER, Bonners Ferry
- Nearest public Level 2 (J1772)15.2 mi — Best Western Plus, Ponderay, ID (at a hotel) · Non-Networked · J1772 · 1 Level 2 port listed · listed open, last confirmed by AFDC 2025-11-13 · hours: 24 hours daily
- Pricing at the fast chargernot listed
- Power (kW)not listed by AFDC — “DC fast” spans roughly 24 to 350 kW, so ask the network.
- Read this honestlyStraight-line miles, like every distance on this site. Roads run longer than this, and you have to get back. We know where a charger is listed. We don’t know if it works today, how fast it is, or the road miles. Check the network before you commit.
Snapshot 2026-09-16 · AFDC record 302440 · US DOE Alternative Fuels Data Center
Nearby restrooms — around Upper Lightning -16B · Idaho Panhandle National Forests · ID — pit toilets, restrooms & rest areas (government data)
- Vault / pit toiletLunch Peak Lookout · ~2.2 mi NE · USFS
- Vault / pit toiletKeeler Snowmobile Shelter · ~7.2 mi E · USFS
- Flush restroomSam Owen · ~9.4 mi S · USFS
- Flush restroomSam Owen · ~9.6 mi S · USFS
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Other camps near Upper Lightning -16B
If this one is full, gated or washed out.
- Upper Lightning 3A~2.1 mi
- Upper Lightning -5A~2.2 mi
- Upper Lightning 2~2.5 mi
- Upper Lightning 1C~2.6 mi
The unit that manages Upper Lightning -16B
Stay limits, road closures and fire restrictions at Upper Lightning -16B are set by Idaho Panhandle National Forests, not by the campsite — check there before you go.
Snow, and when this opens
The nearest automatic snow station is Bear Mountain at 5,460 ft, about 7 miles away. We do not repeat a depth here, because any number we stored would be stale by the time you read it — the station publishes today's.
How we know this — Upper Lightning -16B
Source
U.S. Forest Service recreation data
Confidence
Likely — The record is good enough to put a pin on, but thin in places. Treat the details as a starting point, not gospel.
How it was placed
USFS/BLM authoritative: free & dispersed. Access not field-checked (assumed drive-up).
EV chargers
US DOE Alternative Fuels Data Center station locator, snapshot 2026-09-16. Straight-line miles to the nearest public, open, unrestricted station; restricted and planned units are shown but never counted.
Field check
On the agency's books. The land manager inventoried this site, so its existence is not in question — current conditions are. Nobody from here has camped it recently.
What we don’t know about Upper Lightning -16B
A land record can put you within a few meters of a spot. It cannot tell you any of this — so check it yourself, and treat anything below as the open question it is.
- Road surface & last-mile access
- How many rigs actually fit
- Cell coverage by carrier
- Seasonal & winter access
- Current fire restrictions
- Whether any water here is drinkable
- Shade & wind exposure
- Noise and who else shows up
- Whether a listed EV charger works today, or the road miles to it
Before you go — Upper Lightning -16B
Finding water out here →What “dispersed” means here →Forest road numbers →Reading the aerial →All field notes →
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