Agency-listedUSFS · dispersedFree
Muddy Creek 002
Drive-up · U.S. Forest Service · MT · 47.99024, -112.72125
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Ask about this camp →U.S. Forest Service lists this site. On most of their ground you can camp away from developed sites pretty much anywhere — so treat this as a known-good spot, not the only one allowed. The unit sets stay limits and how far off road and water you must be. What changes is conditions — roads, gates, closures, fire rules. Check those with the unit before you commit to the drive.
Nearest road on the Forest Service MVUM — Muddy Creek 002 · Helena-Lewis and Clark National Forest · MT
No MVUM road within 1 mi of the pin; access may be a county road or unmapped.
From the Forest Service's own Motor Vehicle Use Map roads layer (EDW, Clearinghouse refresh Aug 30, 2026), straight-line from the pin to the nearest mapped segment. The nearest segment is not necessarily the way in, a maintenance level is the agency's class and not a report on today, and a road's season is the road's — it is not a campground order. What the levels mean → What an MVUM is →
USGS topo — contours & terrain
Aerial — USGS / NAIP
Weather outlook — at Muddy Creek 002
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Live NWS area forecast (~2.5 km grid, not elevation-corrected). Camp sits at 5,741 ft.
Fire & smoke — around Muddy Creek 002NIFC · AirNow
Checking active fires & air quality…
Active wildfires from NIFC (within ~50 mi); air quality from AirNow. Always confirm current fire restrictions with the managing office before you go.
Everything you need — measured from Muddy Creek 002 · Helena-Lewis and Clark National Forest · MT
▲ your camp. Rings are 15, 30 and 60 straight-line miles; bearings are approximate and roads run longer.
Nearest of each
- @Mail17 mi
- +Urgent care21 mi
- GGrocery28 mi
- FFuel28 mi
- LLaundry28 mi
- RxPharmacy28 mi
- OOutfitter28 mi
- HHardware28 mi
- MMechanic28 mi
- WWater36 mi
- PPropane39 mi
- EVEV fast charger73 mi
≤30 mi30–4545+water
The read: water is a real 36-mi drive, fuel & food sit about 28 mi out, the nearest EV fast charger is a 73-mi run (and back).
Not within 60 mi: Dump. Plan those before you head up.
One dot per need — the nearest of each kind, straight-line from camp. Places from OpenStreetMap (© OpenStreetMap contributors); the EV fast charger from the US DOE station locator. Open in Google Maps ↗
The site — Muddy Creek 002
Access
Drive-up
Land
U.S. Forest Service · dispersed
Elevation
5,741 ft
Ground slope
11.2% · noticeable
State
MT
Coordinates
47.99024, -112.72125
Cost
Free
Nearby & resupply — around Muddy Creek 002 · Helena-Lewis and Clark National Forest · MT (OpenStreetMap)
- Water featureMuddy Creek · under 0.1 mi · USGS: perennial stream
- Nearest townBlackleaf · ~5.5 mi
- Rail & highwaynone mapped within 10 mi
- Drinking waternone within 10 mi
- Fuelnone within 30 mi
- Propane / LPGnone within 31 mi
- GroceriesMountain Front Market · ~27.5 mi
- PharmacyPharmacy/Drugstore · ~27.8 mi
- Hospital / clinicHeart Butte Clinic · ~21.1 mi
- Mapping is thin out hereAn empty row means nothing is mapped within that radius — not that nothing exists. Small stores, seasonal resorts and single fuel pumps out here often never make it onto the map. Treat these as unconfirmed and ask locally.
EV charging — from Muddy Creek 002 · Helena-Lewis and Clark National Forest · MT — nearest public DC fast & Level 2 (US DOE station data)
- Nearest public DC fast charger73.2 mi straight-line SE — Great Falls, MT - Tesla Supercharger (at a hotel) · Tesla · NACS (Tesla) · 8 fast ports listed · listed open, last confirmed by AFDC 2026-06-18 · hours: 24 hours daily. NACS partner enabled. · directions
- Public DC fast stations within reachnone within 25 mi · none within 50 · 15 within 100 · 29 within 150
- Nearest listing CCS73.2 mi — CLARK HYUNDAI SERVICECUSTOMER, Kalispell
- Nearest listing CHAdeMO73.2 mi — CLARK HYUNDAI SERVICECUSTOMER, Kalispell
- Nearest public Level 2 (J1772)27.4 mi — Old Trail Museum Parking Lot, Choteau, MT · CHARGELAB · J1772 · 2 Level 2 ports listed · listed open, last confirmed by AFDC 2026-09-16 · hours: not listed
- Pricing at the fast chargernot listed
- Power (kW)not listed by AFDC — “DC fast” spans roughly 24 to 350 kW, so ask the network.
- Read this honestlyStraight-line miles, like every distance on this site. Roads run longer than this, and you have to get back. We know where a charger is listed. We don’t know if it works today, how fast it is, or the road miles. Check the network before you commit.
Snapshot 2026-09-16 · AFDC record 163998 · US DOE Alternative Fuels Data Center
Nearby restrooms — around Muddy Creek 002 · Helena-Lewis and Clark National Forest · MT — pit toilets, restrooms & rest areas (government data)
- Flush restroomWest Fork Cabin · ~4.4 mi SW · USFS
- Vault / pit toiletWest Fork Cg · ~4.4 mi SW · USFS
- Vault / pit toiletElko Cg · ~4.9 mi SW · USFS
- Vault / pit toiletCave Mountain Cg · ~6.8 mi S · USFS
Coming out here — Muddy Creek 002 · Helena-Lewis and Clark National Forest · MT
- Surface water mapped nearby: USGS maps Muddy Creek as a perennial stream, under 0.1 mi from the pin (National Hydrography Dataset, data refreshed October 2022). Mapped as perennial is not the same as flowing today. Nobody has checked it for you. Filter or boil anything you drink.
- Ground slope around the pin: about 11.2% — noticeable. Measured on USGS's 3DEP elevation model (1 m data here), sampled every 10 metres around the point. That is the hillside, not the ground under your wheels — a graded pullout or a bench a few metres across is too small to show up at that spacing, and nobody has checked this one for you.
- No rail line and no interstate or US route is mapped within 10 mi of the pin. Checked against the FRA/BTS North American Rail Network (data updated Jul 21, 2026) and the Census's TIGER/Line primary roads (TIGER/Line 2025, released Oct 2025). Both are national files and both are maps of what is built, not counts of what moves on it.
- Assume no services at all. Most dispersed camping in a national forest has none: no tap, no power, no dump, often no toilet. Everything you need, you bring.
- Power: Dave carries his own — batteries or solar. A generator will run your rig and it is also the thing everybody camped near you can hear.
- Getting online: Dave recommends Starlink. He has had it since SpaceX introduced it, used it for four years living on the road, and it delivers as promised — several hundred nights out, and he can count on one hand the places he could not connect. The cable on his unit runs 150 feet, which is usually all it takes to find enough sky. Starlink → Referral link — Starlink pays Dave $100 in cash if you sign up through it, and that money funds this site and the next trip. It costs you nothing and does not change the recommendation.
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Other camps near Muddy Creek 002
If this one is full, gated or washed out.
- Muddy Creek 001~0.1 mi
- Road 145-02~1.4 mi
- Blackleaf 001~1.7 mi
- Road 145-04~1.8 mi
The unit that manages Muddy Creek 002
Stay limits, road closures and fire restrictions at Muddy Creek 002 are set by Helena-Lewis and Clark National Forest, not by the campsite — check there before you go.
Snow, and when this opens
The nearest automatic snow station is Dupuyer Creek at 5,740 ft, about 5 miles away. That is about the height of this camp, so it is a fair proxy. We do not repeat a depth here, because any number we stored would be stale by the time you read it — the station publishes today's.
How we know this — Muddy Creek 002
Source
U.S. Forest Service recreation data
Confidence
Likely — The record is good enough to put a pin on, but thin in places. Treat the details as a starting point, not gospel.
How it was placed
USFS/BLM authoritative: free & dispersed. Access not field-checked (assumed drive-up).
Nearest MVUM road
US Forest Service Motor Vehicle Use Map roads layer (EDW_MVUM_01, layer 1), Clearinghouse refresh Aug 30, 2026. Straight-line distance from the pin to the nearest mapped segment within 1 mi; surface type, maintenance level and open dates are the agency's own values for that segment, expanded from its codes and otherwise unedited. Nothing here says which road reaches the site.
EV chargers
US DOE Alternative Fuels Data Center station locator, snapshot 2026-09-16. Straight-line miles to the nearest public, open, unrestricted station; restricted and planned units are shown but never counted.
Field check
On the agency's books. The land manager inventoried this site, so its existence is not in question — current conditions are. Nobody from here has camped it recently.
What we don’t know about Muddy Creek 002
A land record can put you within a few meters of a spot. It cannot tell you any of this — so check it yourself, and treat anything below as the open question it is.
- Road surface & last-mile access
- How many rigs actually fit
- Cell coverage by carrier
- Seasonal & winter access
- Current fire restrictions
- Whether any water here is drinkable
- Shade & wind exposure
- Noise and who else shows up
- Whether a listed EV charger works today, or the road miles to it
Before you go — Muddy Creek 002
Finding water out here →What “dispersed” means here →Forest road numbers →Power off-grid →All field notes →