Agency-listedUSFSFee
Pines
Drive-up · U.S. Forest Service · NM · 32.96702, -105.73502
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Ask about this camp →U.S. Forest Service lists this as a developed campground. Expect marked sites, a fee station or a reservation, and the usual campground rules. The dispersed-camping freedom of the surrounding forest does not apply inside it. What changes is conditions — roads, gates, closures, fire rules. Check those with the unit before you commit to the drive.
USGS topo — contours & terrain
Aerial — USGS / NAIP
Weather outlook — at Pines
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Live NWS area forecast (~2.5 km grid, not elevation-corrected). Camp sits at 8,642 ft.
Fire & smoke — around PinesNIFC · AirNow
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Active wildfires from NIFC (within ~50 mi); air quality from AirNow. Always confirm current fire restrictions with the managing office before you go.
Everything you need — measured from Pines · Lincoln National Forest · NM
Straight-line miles · bearings approx · roads run longer
Nearest of each
- FFuel1 mi
- GGrocery1 mi
- @Mail1 mi
- DDump1 mi
- MMechanic12 mi
- +Urgent care13 mi
- LLaundry13 mi
- HHardware13 mi
- EVEV fast charger13 mi
- RxPharmacy14 mi
- AAir-up23 mi
- ShShower51 mi
≤30 mi30–4545+water
The read: fuel & food sit about 1 mi out.
Not within 60 mi: Water, Propane. Plan those before you head up.
One dot per need — the nearest of each kind, straight-line from camp. Places from OpenStreetMap (© OpenStreetMap contributors); the EV fast charger from the US DOE station locator. Open in Google Maps ↗
The site — Pines
Access
Drive-up
Land
U.S. Forest Service
Elevation
8,642 ft
State
NM
Coordinates
32.96702, -105.73502
Cost
Fee
Nearby & resupply — around Pines · Lincoln National Forest · NM (OpenStreetMap)
- Nearest townCloudcroft · ~1.0 mi
- Drinking waternone within 10 mi
- FuelPhillips 66 · ~0.8 mi
- Propane / LPGnone within 31 mi
- Dump station~0.9 mi
- GroceriesAllsup's · ~0.8 mi
- PharmacyWalgreens · ~13.9 mi
- Hospital / clinicSouthern New Mexico Wellness Alliance Doctor's Office · ~12.8 mi
- HardwareThe Home Depot · ~13.3 mi
EV charging — from Pines · Lincoln National Forest · NM — nearest public DC fast & Level 2 (US DOE station data)
- Nearest public DC fast charger13.4 mi straight-line W — Casa Chevrolet GMC, Alamogordo, NM · EV Connect · CCS · 1 fast port listed · listed open, last confirmed by AFDC 2026-09-16 · hours: 24 hours daily · directions
- Public DC fast stations within reach5 within 25 mi · 7 within 50 · 42 within 100 · 66 within 150
- Nearest listing NACS (Tesla)13.6 mi — Alamogordo, NM - Tesla Supercharger, Alamogordo
- Nearest listing CHAdeMO15.8 mi — Allsups - Alamogordo, Alamogordo
- Nearest public Level 2 (J1772)0.8 mi — Otero County Electric Co-op, Cloudcroft, NM (at a coop) · Non-Networked · J1772 · 2 Level 2 ports listed · listed open, last confirmed by AFDC 2026-08-11 · hours: 24 hours daily
- Pricing at the fast chargernot listed
- Power (kW)not listed by AFDC — “DC fast” spans roughly 24 to 350 kW, so ask the network.
- Read this honestlyStraight-line miles, like every distance on this site. Roads run longer than this, and you have to get back. We know where a charger is listed. We don’t know if it works today, how fast it is, or the road miles. Check the network before you commit.
Snapshot 2026-09-16 · AFDC record 234745 · US DOE Alternative Fuels Data Center
Nearby restrooms — around Pines · Lincoln National Forest · NM — pit toilets, restrooms & rest areas (government data)
- Vault / pit toiletPines · at this camp · USFS
- Vault / pit toiletLower Fir · at this camp · USFS
- Vault / pit toiletUpper Fir · ~0.3 mi NE · USFS
- Vault / pit toiletApache · ~0.4 mi E · USFS
Open Pines elsewhere
Other camps near Pines
If this one is full, gated or washed out.
- Lower Fir Group Campground~0.2 mi
- Apache Campground~0.3 mi
- Saddle Campground~0.6 mi
- Silver Campground~0.7 mi
The unit that manages Pines
Stay limits, road closures and fire restrictions at Pines are set by Lincoln National Forest, not by the campsite — check there before you go.
How we know this — Pines
Source
U.S. Forest Service recreation data
Confidence
Likely — The record is good enough to put a pin on, but thin in places. Treat the details as a starting point, not gospel.
How it was placed
Developed FEE campground (not free) - review | auto:usfs-fee 2026-08-20: US Forest Service developed campground, agency coordinates, agency states a fee. No dollar amount in the agency record -- expect a charge and confirm the current rate before you go. Not field-verified.
EV chargers
US DOE Alternative Fuels Data Center station locator, snapshot 2026-09-16. Straight-line miles to the nearest public, open, unrestricted station; restricted and planned units are shown but never counted.
Field check
On the agency's books. The land manager inventoried this site, so its existence is not in question — current conditions are. Nobody from here has camped it recently.
What we don’t know about Pines
A land record can put you within a few meters of a spot. It cannot tell you any of this — so check it yourself, and treat anything below as the open question it is.
- Road surface & last-mile access
- How many rigs actually fit
- Cell coverage by carrier
- Seasonal & winter access
- Current fire restrictions
- Whether any water here is drinkable
- Shade & wind exposure
- Noise and who else shows up
- Whether a listed EV charger works today, or the road miles to it
Before you go — Pines
When the high country opens →Water on public land →What “dispersed” means here →Dispersed camping tips →All field notes →
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