Agency-listedUSFS · dispersedFree
Rd 1575 Site 1
Drive-up · U.S. Forest Service · ID · 47.36101, -116.39721
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Ask about this camp →U.S. Forest Service lists this site. On most of their ground you can camp away from developed sites pretty much anywhere — so treat this as a known-good spot, not the only one allowed. The unit sets stay limits and how far off road and water you must be. What changes is conditions — roads, gates, closures, fire rules. Check those with the unit before you commit to the drive.
Nearest road on the Forest Service MVUM — Rd 1575 Site 1 · Idaho Panhandle National Forests · ID
No MVUM road within 1 mi of the pin; access may be a county road or unmapped.
From the Forest Service's own Motor Vehicle Use Map roads layer (EDW, Clearinghouse refresh Aug 30, 2026), straight-line from the pin to the nearest mapped segment. The nearest segment is not necessarily the way in, a maintenance level is the agency's class and not a report on today, and a road's season is the road's — it is not a campground order. What the levels mean → What an MVUM is →
USGS topo — contours & terrain
Aerial — USGS / NAIP
Weather outlook — at Rd 1575 Site 1
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Live NWS area forecast (~2.5 km grid, not elevation-corrected). Camp sits at 4,131 ft.
Fire & smoke — around Rd 1575 Site 1NIFC · AirNow
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Active wildfires from NIFC (within ~50 mi); air quality from AirNow. Always confirm current fire restrictions with the managing office before you go.
Everything you need — measured from Rd 1575 Site 1 · Idaho Panhandle National Forests · ID
▲ your camp. Rings are 15, 30 and 60 straight-line miles; bearings are approximate and roads run longer.
Nearest of each
- GGrocery8 mi
- LLaundry8 mi
- FFuel8 mi
- @Mail8 mi
- HHardware9 mi
- MMechanic15 mi
- DDump16 mi
- EVEV fast charger16 mi
- PPropane17 mi
- +Urgent care17 mi
- RxPharmacy23 mi
- OOutfitter23 mi
- ShShower24 mi
- WWater30 mi
≤30 mi30–4545+water
The read: water is a real 30-mi drive, fuel & food sit about 8 mi out.
One dot per need — the nearest of each kind, straight-line from camp. Places from OpenStreetMap (© OpenStreetMap contributors); the EV fast charger from the US DOE station locator. Open in Google Maps ↗
The site — Rd 1575 Site 1
Access
Drive-up
Land
U.S. Forest Service · dispersed
Elevation
4,131 ft
Ground slope
58.2% · steep
Nearest rail line
~6.9 mi · other track
State
ID
Coordinates
47.36101, -116.39721
Cost
Free
Nearby & resupply — around Rd 1575 Site 1 · Idaho Panhandle National Forests · ID (OpenStreetMap)
- Water featureAhrs Creek · ~0.9 mi · USGS: perennial stream
- Also mapped (OSM)Crystal Lake (water) · mapped within 1.6 mi
- Nearest townSaint Joe · ~4.0 mi
- Nearest rail line~6.9 mi · other track
- Nearest highwayno interstate or US route within 10 mi
- Drinking waternone within 10 mi
- Fuel76 · ~8.4 mi
- Propane / LPGnone within 31 mi
- Dump station~15.8 mi
- GroceriesSt. Maries Harvest Foods · ~7.9 mi
- PharmacyPharmacy · ~23.3 mi
- Hospital / clinicClinic · ~17.4 mi
- HardwareAce Hardware · ~28.8 mi
EV charging — from Rd 1575 Site 1 · Idaho Panhandle National Forests · ID — nearest public DC fast & Level 2 (US DOE station data)
- Nearest public DC fast charger16.1 mi straight-line NE — Walmart 4249 (Smelterville, ID) · Electrify America · CHAdeMO, CCS · 4 fast ports listed · listed open, last confirmed by AFDC 2026-09-16 · hours: 24 hours daily · directions
- Public DC fast stations within reach2 within 25 mi · 22 within 50 · 70 within 100 · 103 within 150
- Nearest listing NACS (Tesla)17.8 mi — 76 Station - Tesla Supercharger, Kellogg
- Nearest public Level 2 (J1772)28.1 mi — The Coeur D'Alene Resort - Tesla Destination (at a hotel) · Tesla Destination · J1772, NACS (Tesla) · 4 Level 2 ports listed · listed open, last confirmed by AFDC 2026-08-27 · hours: 24 hours daily. Open to all vehicles.
- Pricing at the fast chargernot listed
- Power (kW)not listed by AFDC — “DC fast” spans roughly 24 to 350 kW, so ask the network.
- Read this honestlyStraight-line miles, like every distance on this site. Roads run longer than this, and you have to get back. We know where a charger is listed. We don’t know if it works today, how fast it is, or the road miles. Check the network before you commit.
Snapshot 2026-09-16 · AFDC record 123685 · US DOE Alternative Fuels Data Center
Nearby restrooms — around Rd 1575 Site 1 · Idaho Panhandle National Forests · ID — pit toilets, restrooms & rest areas (government data)
- Vault / pit toiletTingley Springs - Vault Toilet · ~0.8 mi W · BLM
- RestroomSheep Springs Toilet · ~1.9 mi N · BLM
- Vault / pit toiletShadowy St. Joe · ~2.4 mi S · USFS
- Vault / pit toiletShadowy St. Joe Boating Site · ~2.4 mi S · USFS
Coming out here — Rd 1575 Site 1 · Idaho Panhandle National Forests · ID
- Surface water mapped nearby: USGS maps Ahrs Creek as a perennial stream, ~0.9 mi from the pin (National Hydrography Dataset, data refreshed October 2022). Mapped as perennial is not the same as flowing today. Nobody has checked it for you. Filter or boil anything you drink.
- Ground slope around the pin: about 58.2% — steep. Measured on USGS's 3DEP elevation model (1 m data here), sampled every 10 metres around the point. That is the hillside, not the ground under your wheels — a graded pullout or a bench a few metres across is too small to show up at that spacing, and nobody has checked this one for you.
- Rail line mapped ~6.9 mi from the pin — the national rail atlas classes it as other track. No track the atlas classes as a main line is mapped within 10 mi. That is the FRA/BTS North American Rail Network (data updated Jul 21, 2026), which records that a line is there and what class of track it is. Whether anything runs on it, how often, and at what hour, it does not say, and nobody has checked this one for you.
- No interstate or US route is mapped within 10 mi of the pin in the Census's TIGER/Line primary roads (TIGER/Line 2025, released Oct 2025). That file holds the divided, limited-access highways only — a state expressway or a two-lane US route near this camp would not be in it.
- Assume no services at all. Most dispersed camping in a national forest has none: no tap, no power, no dump, often no toilet. Everything you need, you bring.
- Power: Dave carries his own — batteries or solar. A generator will run your rig and it is also the thing everybody camped near you can hear.
- Getting online: Dave recommends Starlink. He has had it since SpaceX introduced it, used it for four years living on the road, and it delivers as promised — several hundred nights out, and he can count on one hand the places he could not connect. The cable on his unit runs 150 feet, which is usually all it takes to find enough sky. Starlink → Referral link — Starlink pays Dave $100 in cash if you sign up through it, and that money funds this site and the next trip. It costs you nothing and does not change the recommendation.
Open Rd 1575 Site 1 elsewhere
Other camps near Rd 1575 Site 1
If this one is full, gated or washed out.
- Crystal Lake Wilderness Study Area~2.4 mi
- Shadowy St. Joe~2.4 mi · fee
- Rd 202 Site 9~5.3 mi
- Rainy Hill~11.9 mi
The unit that manages Rd 1575 Site 1
Stay limits, road closures and fire restrictions at Rd 1575 Site 1 are set by Idaho Panhandle National Forests, not by the campsite — check there before you go.
How we know this — Rd 1575 Site 1
Source
U.S. Forest Service recreation data
Confidence
Likely — The record is good enough to put a pin on, but thin in places. Treat the details as a starting point, not gospel.
How it was placed
USFS/BLM authoritative: free & dispersed. Access not field-checked (assumed drive-up).
Nearest MVUM road
US Forest Service Motor Vehicle Use Map roads layer (EDW_MVUM_01, layer 1), Clearinghouse refresh Aug 30, 2026. Straight-line distance from the pin to the nearest mapped segment within 1 mi; surface type, maintenance level and open dates are the agency's own values for that segment, expanded from its codes and otherwise unedited. Nothing here says which road reaches the site.
EV chargers
US DOE Alternative Fuels Data Center station locator, snapshot 2026-09-16. Straight-line miles to the nearest public, open, unrestricted station; restricted and planned units are shown but never counted.
Field check
On the agency's books. The land manager inventoried this site, so its existence is not in question — current conditions are. Nobody from here has camped it recently.
What we don’t know about Rd 1575 Site 1
A land record can put you within a few meters of a spot. It cannot tell you any of this — so check it yourself, and treat anything below as the open question it is.
- Road surface & last-mile access
- How many rigs actually fit
- Cell coverage by carrier
- Seasonal & winter access
- Current fire restrictions
- Whether any water here is drinkable
- Shade & wind exposure
- Noise and who else shows up
- Whether a listed EV charger works today, or the road miles to it
Before you go — Rd 1575 Site 1
Finding water out here →What “dispersed” means here →Cold-weather camping →Picking a spot →All field notes →