Agency-listedUSFSFeeRoad season: closed (MVUM)
Shadowy St. Joe
Drive-up · U.S. Forest Service · ID · 47.32567, -116.39327
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Ask about this camp →U.S. Forest Service lists this as a developed campground. Expect marked sites, a fee station or a reservation, and the usual campground rules. The dispersed-camping freedom of the surrounding forest does not apply inside it. What changes is conditions — roads, gates, closures, fire rules. Check those with the unit before you commit to the drive.
Nearest road on the Forest Service MVUM — Shadowy St. Joe · Idaho Panhandle National Forests · ID
The nearest road on the Forest Service MVUM is FR 3381 (Shadowy St Joe Campground), 20 ft from the pin. The MVUM lists it as bituminous surface treatment surface and maintenance level 5 – high degree of user comfort.
Road season: closed (MVUM) The MVUM lists FR 3381 (Shadowy St Joe Campground), 20 ft from the pin, open to passenger vehicles May 22 – Sep 15; today is outside that window. Opens May 22.
MVUM record for FR 3381 (Shadowy St Joe Campground): “05/22-09/15” Read against the calendar on 2026-09-22; with JavaScript your browser re-checks it against today.
From the Forest Service's own Motor Vehicle Use Map roads layer (EDW, Clearinghouse refresh Aug 30, 2026), straight-line from the pin to the nearest mapped segment. The nearest segment is not necessarily the way in, a maintenance level is the agency's class and not a report on today, and a road's season is the road's — it is not a campground order. What the levels mean → What an MVUM is →
USGS topo — contours & terrain
Aerial — USGS / NAIP
Weather outlook — at Shadowy St. Joe
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Live NWS area forecast (~2.5 km grid, not elevation-corrected). Camp sits at 2,133 ft.
Fire & smoke — around Shadowy St. JoeNIFC · AirNow
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Active wildfires from NIFC (within ~50 mi); air quality from AirNow. Always confirm current fire restrictions with the managing office before you go.
Everything you need — measured from Shadowy St. Joe · Idaho Panhandle National Forests · ID
▲ your camp. Rings are 15, 30 and 60 straight-line miles; bearings are approximate and roads run longer.
Nearest of each
- GGrocery8 mi
- LLaundry8 mi
- FFuel8 mi
- @Mail8 mi
- HHardware8 mi
- PPropane15 mi
- DDump15 mi
- MMechanic17 mi
- EVEV fast charger18 mi
- +Urgent care19 mi
- RxPharmacy24 mi
- OOutfitter24 mi
- ShShower26 mi
- WWater32 mi
≤30 mi30–4545+water
The read: water is a real 32-mi drive, fuel & food sit about 8 mi out.
One dot per need — the nearest of each kind, straight-line from camp. Places from OpenStreetMap (© OpenStreetMap contributors); the EV fast charger from the US DOE station locator. Open in Google Maps ↗
The site — Shadowy St. Joe
Access
Drive-up
Land
U.S. Forest Service
Elevation
2,133 ft
Ground slope
18.1% · steep
Nearest rail line
~6.9 mi · other track
State
ID
Coordinates
47.32567, -116.39327
Cost
Fee
Nearby & resupply — around Shadowy St. Joe · Idaho Panhandle National Forests · ID (OpenStreetMap)
- Water featureSaint Joe River · ~0.1 mi · USGS: perennial river
- Nearest townSt. Maries · ~8.4 mi
- Nearest rail line~6.9 mi · other track
- Nearest highwayno interstate or US route within 10 mi
- Drinking waternone within 10 mi
- FuelFuel · ~7.9 mi
- Propane / LPGPropane · ~14.7 mi
- Dump station~14.8 mi
- GroceriesSt. Maries Harvest Foods · ~7.5 mi
- PharmacyPharmacy · ~23.5 mi
- Hospital / clinicHospital · ~19.1 mi
- HardwareTenth Street Lumber · ~8.3 mi
EV charging — from Shadowy St. Joe · Idaho Panhandle National Forests · ID — nearest public DC fast & Level 2 (US DOE station data)
- Nearest public DC fast charger18.0 mi straight-line NE — Walmart 4249 (Smelterville, ID) · Electrify America · CHAdeMO, CCS · 4 fast ports listed · listed open, last confirmed by AFDC 2026-09-16 · hours: 24 hours daily · directions
- Public DC fast stations within reach2 within 25 mi · 18 within 50 · 70 within 100 · 104 within 150
- Nearest listing NACS (Tesla)19.6 mi — 76 Station - Tesla Supercharger, Kellogg
- Nearest public Level 2 (J1772)29.3 mi — Avista - The Harvester, Spangle, ID · FLO · J1772 · 1 Level 2 port listed · listed open, last confirmed by AFDC 2026-09-16 · hours: 24 hours daily
- Pricing at the fast chargernot listed
- Power (kW)not listed by AFDC — “DC fast” spans roughly 24 to 350 kW, so ask the network.
- Read this honestlyStraight-line miles, like every distance on this site. Roads run longer than this, and you have to get back. We know where a charger is listed. We don’t know if it works today, how fast it is, or the road miles. Check the network before you commit.
Snapshot 2026-09-16 · AFDC record 123685 · US DOE Alternative Fuels Data Center
Nearby restrooms — around Shadowy St. Joe · Idaho Panhandle National Forests · ID — pit toilets, restrooms & rest areas (government data)
- Vault / pit toiletShadowy St. Joe · at this camp · USFS
- Vault / pit toiletShadowy St. Joe Boating Site · at this camp · USFS
- Vault / pit toiletTingley Springs - Vault Toilet · ~2.4 mi NW · BLM
- RestroomSheep Springs Toilet · ~4.3 mi N · BLM
Coming out here — Shadowy St. Joe · Idaho Panhandle National Forests · ID
- Surface water mapped nearby: USGS maps Saint Joe River as a perennial river, ~0.1 mi from the pin (National Hydrography Dataset, data refreshed October 2022). Mapped as perennial is not the same as flowing today. Nobody has checked it for you. Filter or boil anything you drink.
- Ground slope around the pin: about 18.1% — steep. Measured on USGS's 3DEP elevation model (10 m data here), sampled every 10 metres around the point. That is the hillside, not the ground under your wheels — a graded pullout or a bench a few metres across is too small to show up at that spacing, and nobody has checked this one for you.
- Rail line mapped ~6.9 mi from the pin — the national rail atlas classes it as other track. No track the atlas classes as a main line is mapped within 10 mi. That is the FRA/BTS North American Rail Network (data updated Jul 21, 2026), which records that a line is there and what class of track it is. Whether anything runs on it, how often, and at what hour, it does not say, and nobody has checked this one for you.
- No interstate or US route is mapped within 10 mi of the pin in the Census's TIGER/Line primary roads (TIGER/Line 2025, released Oct 2025). That file holds the divided, limited-access highways only — a state expressway or a two-lane US route near this camp would not be in it.
- Power: Dave carries his own — batteries or solar. A generator will run your rig and it is also the thing everybody camped near you can hear.
- Getting online: Dave recommends Starlink. He has had it since SpaceX introduced it, used it for four years living on the road, and it delivers as promised — several hundred nights out, and he can count on one hand the places he could not connect. The cable on his unit runs 150 feet, which is usually all it takes to find enough sky. Starlink → Referral link — Starlink pays Dave $100 in cash if you sign up through it, and that money funds this site and the next trip. It costs you nothing and does not change the recommendation.
Open Shadowy St. Joe elsewhere
Other camps near Shadowy St. Joe
If this one is full, gated or washed out.
- Rd 1575 Site 1~2.4 mi
- Crystal Lake Wilderness Study Area~4.8 mi
- Rd 202 Site 9~7.1 mi
- Big Creek~12.9 mi · fee
The unit that manages Shadowy St. Joe
Stay limits, road closures and fire restrictions at Shadowy St. Joe are set by Idaho Panhandle National Forests, not by the campsite — check there before you go.
Snow, and when this opens
The nearest automatic snow station is Mica Creek at 4,480 ft, about 13 miles away. It sits about 2,347 ft higher than this camp, so treat it as a guide rather than a reading for this spot. We do not repeat a depth here, because any number we stored would be stale by the time you read it — the station publishes today's.
How we know this — Shadowy St. Joe
Source
U.S. Forest Service recreation data
Confidence
Likely — The record is good enough to put a pin on, but thin in places. Treat the details as a starting point, not gospel.
How it was placed
Developed FEE campground (not free) - review | auto:usfs-fee 2026-08-20: US Forest Service developed campground, agency coordinates, agency states a fee. No dollar amount in the agency record -- expect a charge and confirm the current rate before you go. Not field-verified. | Fee 2026-08-21: $20 per night single site, two vehicles included; third vehicle $5 (three-vehicle limit). Boat launch $5. Source: https://www.fs.usda.gov/r01/idahopanhandle/recreation/shadowy-st-joe-campground (last updated April 4, 2025). || Water 2026-08-24 (nightshift fire 120): USFS Enterprise Data Warehouse Recreation Sites layer (apps.fs.usda.gov/arcx/rest/services/EDW/EDW_RecInfraRecreationSites_02/MapServer/0), extract cached locally as data\_mt_water_edw.json, objectid 2359140, site "SHADOWY ST. JOE" (recreation area "SHADOWY ST. JOE"), WATER_AVAILABILITY = "Yes, drinking water is available from a hand pump". Matched to this camp on coordinates (0.0008 mi from the agency point). Agency record only -- not field-verified, and no natural water here is claimed to be potable.
Nearest MVUM road
US Forest Service Motor Vehicle Use Map roads layer (EDW_MVUM_01, layer 1), Clearinghouse refresh Aug 30, 2026. Straight-line distance from the pin to the nearest mapped segment within 1 mi; surface type, maintenance level and open dates are the agency's own values for that segment, expanded from its codes and otherwise unedited. Nothing here says which road reaches the site.
EV chargers
US DOE Alternative Fuels Data Center station locator, snapshot 2026-09-16. Straight-line miles to the nearest public, open, unrestricted station; restricted and planned units are shown but never counted.
Field check
On the agency's books. The land manager inventoried this site, so its existence is not in question — current conditions are. Nobody from here has camped it recently.
What we don’t know about Shadowy St. Joe
A land record can put you within a few meters of a spot. It cannot tell you any of this — so check it yourself, and treat anything below as the open question it is.
- Whether that MVUM road is the way in, and the last stretch beyond it
- Whether the site itself closes on its own schedule — only the road's season is on record
- How many rigs actually fit
- Cell coverage by carrier
- Current fire restrictions
- Whether any water here is drinkable
- Shade & wind exposure
- Noise and who else shows up
- Whether a listed EV charger works today, or the road miles to it
Before you go — Shadowy St. Joe
Water on public land →What “dispersed” means here →Cold-weather camping →Dispersed camping tips →All field notes →