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Winn Group
Drive-up · U.S. Forest Service · AZ · 33.96391, -109.48549
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Ask about this camp →U.S. Forest Service lists this as a developed campground. Expect marked sites, a fee station or a reservation, and the usual campground rules. The dispersed-camping freedom of the surrounding forest does not apply inside it. What changes is conditions — roads, gates, closures, fire rules. Check those with the unit before you commit to the drive.
Nearest road on the Forest Service MVUM — Winn Group · Apache-Sitgreaves National Forests · AZ
No road within 1 mi of the pin in the national MVUM layer — and that layer carries no data at all for this forest (unit 0301), so this is the layer's silence, not the ground's. Access may be a county road or unmapped.
From the Forest Service's own Motor Vehicle Use Map roads layer (EDW, Clearinghouse refresh Aug 30, 2026), straight-line from the pin to the nearest mapped segment. The nearest segment is not necessarily the way in, a maintenance level is the agency's class and not a report on today, and a road's season is the road's — it is not a campground order. What the levels mean → What an MVUM is →
USGS topo — contours & terrain
Aerial — USGS / NAIP
Weather outlook — at Winn Group
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Live NWS area forecast (~2.5 km grid, not elevation-corrected). Camp sits at 9,321 ft.
Fire & smoke — around Winn GroupNIFC · AirNow
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Active wildfires from NIFC (within ~50 mi); air quality from AirNow. Always confirm current fire restrictions with the managing office before you go.
Everything you need — measured from Winn Group · Apache-Sitgreaves National Forests · AZ
▲ your camp. Rings are 15, 30 and 60 straight-line miles; bearings are approximate and roads run longer.
Nearest of each
- @Mail3 mi
- GGrocery5 mi
- WWater7 mi
- DDump7 mi
- ShShower8 mi
- FFuel15 mi
- LLaundry16 mi
- HHardware17 mi
- MMechanic22 mi
- EVEV fast charger36 mi
- RxPharmacy38 mi
- +Urgent care45 mi
≤30 mi30–4545+water
The read: water's a short hop out, fuel & food sit about 5 mi out, the nearest EV fast charger is a 36-mi run (and back).
Not within 60 mi: Propane. Plan those before you head up.
One dot per need — the nearest of each kind, straight-line from camp. Places from OpenStreetMap (© OpenStreetMap contributors); the EV fast charger from the US DOE station locator. Open in Google Maps ↗
The site — Winn Group
Access
Drive-up
Land
U.S. Forest Service
Elevation
9,321 ft
Ground slope
3.9% · gentle
State
AZ
Coordinates
33.96391, -109.48549
Cost
Fee
Nearby & resupply — around Winn Group · Apache-Sitgreaves National Forests · AZ (OpenStreetMap)
- Water featureWinn Sink · ~0.2 mi · USGS: swamp or marsh, no flow class
- Nearest townGreer · ~3.2 mi
- Rail & highwaynone mapped within 10 mi
- Drinking waterWater · ~7.4 mi
- FuelShort Stop · ~15.0 mi
- Propane / LPGnone within 31 mi
- Dump station~7.4 mi
- GroceriesLazy Trout Market · ~4.8 mi
- HardwareWoodland Building Center · ~16.8 mi
EV charging — from Winn Group · Apache-Sitgreaves National Forests · AZ — nearest public DC fast & Level 2 (US DOE station data)
- Nearest public DC fast charger36.5 mi straight-line NW — HT02038 ABB STATION 1, Show Low, AZ · ChargePoint Network · CCS · 1 fast port listed · listed open, last confirmed by AFDC 2026-09-16 · hours: 24 hours daily · directions
- Public DC fast stations within reachnone within 25 mi · 2 within 50 · 7 within 100 · 135 within 150
- Nearest listing NACS (Tesla)76.0 mi — Holbrook, AZ, Holbrook
- Nearest listing CHAdeMO85.0 mi — Major Market Inc, Zuni
- Nearest public Level 2 (J1772)28.1 mi — CHARLIE CLARKS C.C. CHARGING 1, Pinetop-Lakeside, AZ · ChargePoint Network · J1772 · 2 Level 2 ports listed · listed open, last confirmed by AFDC 2026-09-16 · hours: 24 hours daily
- Also listed, not counted aboveLevel 2, restricted access — Hampton Inn & Suites Show Low-Pinetop, Show Low, 36.1 mi · J1772 · hours: 24 hours daily; for guest use only; see front desk for access · AFDC lists it “Free”
- Pricing at the fast chargernot listed
- Power (kW)not listed by AFDC — “DC fast” spans roughly 24 to 350 kW, so ask the network.
- Read this honestlyStraight-line miles, like every distance on this site. Roads run longer than this, and you have to get back. We know where a charger is listed. We don’t know if it works today, how fast it is, or the road miles. Check the network before you commit.
Snapshot 2026-09-16 · AFDC record 450693 · US DOE Alternative Fuels Data Center
Nearby restrooms — around Winn Group · Apache-Sitgreaves National Forests · AZ — pit toilets, restrooms & rest areas (government data)
- Vault / pit toiletWinn Group · at this camp · USFS
- Vault / pit toiletWinn Cg · at this camp · USFS
- Vault / pit toiletLee Valley Reservoir · ~1.6 mi SW · USFS
- Vault / pit toiletGabaldon Cg · ~2.4 mi S · USFS
Coming out here — Winn Group · Apache-Sitgreaves National Forests · AZ
- Surface water mapped nearby: USGS maps Winn Sink as a swamp or marsh (no flow class in the record), ~0.2 mi from the pin (National Hydrography Dataset, data refreshed October 2022). The record carries no flow class for it. Nobody has checked it for you. Filter or boil anything you drink.
- Ground slope around the pin: about 3.9% — gentle. Measured on USGS's 3DEP elevation model (1 m data here), sampled every 10 metres around the point. That is the hillside, not the ground under your wheels — a graded pullout or a bench a few metres across is too small to show up at that spacing, and nobody has checked this one for you.
- No rail line and no interstate or US route is mapped within 10 mi of the pin. Checked against the FRA/BTS North American Rail Network (data updated Jul 21, 2026) and the Census's TIGER/Line primary roads (TIGER/Line 2025, released Oct 2025). Both are national files and both are maps of what is built, not counts of what moves on it.
- Power: Dave carries his own — batteries or solar. A generator will run your rig and it is also the thing everybody camped near you can hear.
- Getting online: Dave recommends Starlink. He has had it since SpaceX introduced it, used it for four years living on the road, and it delivers as promised — several hundred nights out, and he can count on one hand the places he could not connect. The cable on his unit runs 150 feet, which is usually all it takes to find enough sky. Starlink → Referral link — Starlink pays Dave $100 in cash if you sign up through it, and that money funds this site and the next trip. It costs you nothing and does not change the recommendation.
Open Winn Group elsewhere
Other camps near Winn Group
If this one is full, gated or washed out.
- Winn Campground~0.2 mi · fee
- Gabaldon Horse Camp~2.4 mi
- Rolfe C. Hoyer Campground~5.2 mi
- Benny Creek Campground~5.9 mi · fee
The unit that manages Winn Group
Stay limits, road closures and fire restrictions at Winn Group are set by Apache-Sitgreaves National Forests, not by the campsite — check there before you go.
How we know this — Winn Group
Source
U.S. Forest Service recreation data
Confidence
Likely — The record is good enough to put a pin on, but thin in places. Treat the details as a starting point, not gospel.
How it was placed
Developed FEE campground (not free) - review | auto:usfs-fee 2026-08-20: US Forest Service developed campground, agency coordinates, agency states a fee. No dollar amount in the agency record -- expect a charge and confirm the current rate before you go. Not field-verified. | Fee 2026-08-26: the agency's own page gives two different numbers. Its fee block reads 'Group Site: $60 per night (up to 50 people)', while the same page then lists 'North Group Site $125.00' and 'South Group Site $125.00', each covering 14 vehicles / 50 people. Budget $125 per group site and confirm with the Springerville Ranger District before you go. Group sites are not eligible for Interagency or Senior pass discounts. Source: https://www.fs.usda.gov/r03/apache-sitgreaves/recreation/winn-group-campground.
Nearest MVUM road
US Forest Service Motor Vehicle Use Map roads layer (EDW_MVUM_01, layer 1), Clearinghouse refresh Aug 30, 2026. Straight-line distance from the pin to the nearest mapped segment within 1 mi; surface type, maintenance level and open dates are the agency's own values for that segment, expanded from its codes and otherwise unedited. Nothing here says which road reaches the site.
EV chargers
US DOE Alternative Fuels Data Center station locator, snapshot 2026-09-16. Straight-line miles to the nearest public, open, unrestricted station; restricted and planned units are shown but never counted.
Field check
On the agency's books. The land manager inventoried this site, so its existence is not in question — current conditions are. Nobody from here has camped it recently.
What we don’t know about Winn Group
A land record can put you within a few meters of a spot. It cannot tell you any of this — so check it yourself, and treat anything below as the open question it is.
- Road surface & last-mile access
- How many rigs actually fit
- Cell coverage by carrier
- Seasonal & winter access
- Current fire restrictions
- Whether any water here is drinkable
- Shade & wind exposure
- Noise and who else shows up
- Whether a listed EV charger works today, or the road miles to it
Before you go — Winn Group
Camping at altitude →When the high country opens →What “dispersed” means here →Dispersed camping tips →All field notes →